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Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Cinnamonbear] #1504169
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I don't know why, but I think Sayre's law is somehow appropriate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_Law


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

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Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Cinnamonbear] #1504178
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And, because we reach a level of "mastery" enough to do all of this when we are at our most vulnerable, gangly worst--adolescence--when we hate the way we look, and don't understand the way we feel, and our parents trot us out in front of crowds to be perfect when we feel absolutely anything but, and when any little embarrassment (which happens--oh--every other second!) makes us want to go crawl into a hole!


That's the plain truth. I can remember it well, from personal experience.


Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Julian_] #1504298
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Originally Posted by SlatterFan
....I think the arts have been an important part of humanity's survival for a very long time.....

....and often they are the main thing that is known and remembered about a society or civilization. Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Mozart, and Beethoven will be remembered long after emperor whomever or doctor whomever.

In fact, they already are known and remembered more than emperor or doctor whomever. smile

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Kreisler] #1504301
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Originally Posted by Kreisler
I don't know why, but I think Sayre's law is somehow appropriate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_Law

What issue here is small or unimportant?

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Mark_C] #1504317
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Originally Posted by Mark_C

....and often they are the main thing that is known and remembered about a society or civilization. Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Mozart, and Beethoven will be remembered long after emperor whomever or doctor whomever.

In fact, they already are known and remembered more than emperor or doctor whomever. smile


A silly statement. Harmless, but silly.

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: landorrano] #1504319
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Originally Posted by landorrano
A silly statement. Harmless, but silly.

No, it wasn't.
But thank you for your attention. smile

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Mark_C] #1504334
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Silly it is. But if it makes you feel good, say it again.

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: landorrano] #1504423
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Originally Posted by landorrano
Silly it is. But if it makes you feel good, say it again.

ha ha ha

Need I point out, that's what you just did. smile

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: wr] #1504462
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Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
I should really stop caring, but for some reason I can't.


how i relate to this comment! frown

Originally Posted by wr


And because it is also one of the most weirdly unnatural things - I mean, really, coaxing music that touches hearts and minds out of that crazy horrible machine via our fingers, on a keyboard laid out in a way that seems deliberately designed to induce nightmares!?!?!



hahaha well described!


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Re: Confidence and performing [Re: TheHappyMoron] #1504655
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It seems to be all about stunted confidence when performing a lame piece of music.

If we are unable to identify the target of the biddy’s "loathing" ... it gets kinda difficult to share in the chat.

I NEVER LOATHE (famous word used by my Victorian mater) PLAYING GOLF ... but I sure hated ever having to change a baby’s nappy.

Now, if we’re talking keyboard music ... playing a John Field Nocturne turns my stomach ... and I quickly take my medication ... a masterpiece by Chopin.

But what is getting the lady disgruntled? If it’s not a splodge of Beethoven, Mendelssohn or Mozart ... could it be a grinding ditty by the likes of some twit Baroque dandy?

What’s the ghastly chunk of music which irks?

Re: Confidence and performing [Re: btb] #1504733
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It's not about what I play, because I would never play something I didn't like.



"The eyes can mislead, the smile can lie, but the shoes always tell the truth."
Re: Confidence and performing [Re: Pogorelich.] #1504879
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Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
It's not about what I play, because I would never play something I didn't like.

You had made it clear that it wasn't that, but people on discussion boards often answer without reading. ha

But in this case I don't blame him. As I said, I initially couldn't get much past the "loathing" thing either.

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