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Difficult bar to play #1502112
08/24/10 05:35 AM
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I'm finding the following bar difficult to play:

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First the RH Chord which starts the bar fingering 1,2,5 is a difficult stretch and then having to hold the two half notes F# & G whilst playing D,C,D with RH 4&3, is it usual, is it something to just keep practicing? I'm trying playing the F# along with the B with my left hand 1 & 4, but that isn't the way it's written.
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Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: bluebilly] #1502116
08/24/10 05:51 AM
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It is ok to use the LH to play those notes if it makes it easier.

I'm sure you didn't mean to type F# & G. The notes are F & G#.


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Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: bluebilly] #1502118
08/24/10 05:54 AM
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It seems like you have pretty small hands if you can't stretch a 7th, I can play the high e with my little finger, d with the ring finger, c with the middle finger, etc.

You ARE playing the b with your left hand, right? smile

Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: snakechaser] #1502125
08/24/10 06:29 AM
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Piece of cake (unless restricted by limited stretch) ... attempting to hold the half-note chord while playing the top 8th-note E,D,C,D outline is solved by using the sustaining pedal.

Both the LH B and the RH chordal mid-note G# are outside the F major scale ... and tend to jangle... however the raspy edginess could well be intentional.


Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: Studio Joe] #1502136
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Originally Posted by Studio Joe
It is ok to use the LH to play those notes if it makes it easier.

I'm sure you didn't mean to type F# & G. The notes are F & G#.


Thanks Studio Joe, it is F & G#, how did I get that wrong? It's easy now. Senior Moment I'm afraid, or an hour perhaps. grin Thanks for the replies everyone.
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Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: bluebilly] #1502185
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I always look for ways to redistribute the notes between the hands whenever I run into tough stretches. Just because the editor seems to think everyone can easily do a 10th doesn't mean it's "wrong" to play it with a different distribution smile


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Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: Morodiene] #1502381
08/24/10 02:26 PM
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Bluebilly,

Glad you caught the mistake. It is a reminder that I've needed on a regular basis that if something in the indicated fingering seems particularly awkward to me the FIRST thing I should look for is to see if I've misread the music. More often than not, I have. crazy


Consolation No.2 E maj, F.Liszt
Nocturne C# minor, FChopin
Clair de Lune, C.Debussy



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Re: Difficult bar to play [Re: JimF] #1502831
08/25/10 06:16 AM
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We have to be bit cautious about re-distributing the notes across the hands. OK often but sometimes the musical sense demands playing it the way the composer wrote it. It's also only OK to use the pedal to hold notes we find difficult to hold physically if the harmony stands it.
For me, first port of call is playing as written, work at it as long as it takes either to master it, or to realise that my technique is inadequate. If the latter, either technical exercises to improve the relevant area or leave the piece for a while. (Technique has a habit of improving in the background over time)


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