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Kawai question: CN-42 vs. CN-33 (vs. CA63?)
#1501581 08/23/10 12:32 PM
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I played on a series of Kawai digital pianos this weekend. I'm trying to compare last year's 42 and this year's 33. My local Kawai guy is trying to clear out his last 42 and he's cutting a good deal, so the price is only slightly higher than a new 33. I think we're talking 2,100 vs. 1,900 in terms of price, 42 vs. 33, but those numbers may be slightly off.

I listened to them on a pair of cheap headphones. I'll have to listen to them more critically with nice phones and the speakers. I like the way the keys felt on each. I also really liked the 63, but I don't know if that's the price point I'm at right now. I could be talked into it, but to be honest it seems more than I need. I do want to make sure the keyboard I buy faithfully replicates a real piano like the RX2. I'd spend more to not sabotage all the practice on the digital so that I have the same command of the "real" instrument. But if the action/response of the 42/33 is quite adequate, instead of getting a 63, I'd rather wait a few years and get an RX2 or something like that when I get to a level of talent that will not cause the piano to wrinkle her nose when I play her.

So, would you go with the 42 or 33 in this situation? Or a 63? Just limiting it to Kawai digitals at this point.


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hawgdriver #1501595 08/23/10 12:55 PM
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What's the price difference when you step up to the ca63? I'm in a similar situation and thinking about the same options. I haven't started talking to dealers about price yet.

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Just a bit of input. According to the "prices paid" thread, the $1900 seems high for the CN33. Did you try to negotiate a price on that, or just the CN42? You may be looking at a "bottom dollar" price on the CN42, and a high retail price for the 33.

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Originally Posted by superwang
Just a bit of input. According to the "prices paid" thread, the $1900 seems high for the CN33. Did you try to negotiate a price on that, or just the CN42? You may be looking at a "bottom dollar" price on the CN42, and a high retail price for the 33.


Thanks SW (that's what she said). :shakes head:

Yeah, he may have said only 1700 for the CN-33. But my focus is not on the exactness of the price as much as the qualitative evaluation of the digital piano. Yes, the value for money is going to determine which one to buy--but I'm not clear on what my quality trade-off is between these two (or three). Dealer's offer on the CN42 was 15% above cost, that's what he said. It's possible he might accept a lower offer.

The 63 was about 33 or 34 hundred.


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hawgdriver, that's a difficult choice.

The CN42 and CN33 both utilise the same 'Progressive Harmonic Imaging' tone generator, so should sound largely identical through a good pair of headphones.

However the CN33 features the brand new RH action with let-off simulation and Ivory Touch key surfaces - in terms of keyboard action it's definitely the superior model.

But then, with the CN42 you're getting a more powerful speaker system, many more sounds, drum rhythms, 16-track SMF USB recorder, and twice the polyphony.

Yes, that's a really difficult choice, but I think it largely depends on your priorities. If having the latest keyboard action is more important than additional features, go for the CN33.

Opting for the CA63 would of course give you the best of both worlds, with an even more realistic keyboard action, higher quality sounds, and convenient features such as MP3 audio recording. However, it's obviously quite a lot more money to invest in - especially if you are planning to upgrade to an RX-2 in a few years.

One final suggestion might be to mention your future plans of purchasing an acoustic to the dealer. If you do decide to upgrade to an RX-2 within 5-10 years or so, they may be prepared to offer an attractive part-exchange deal on the digital piano.

I hope this helps - good luck with your purchase.

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James
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ps. Nice 'Office' reference by the way... wink


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Awesomeness delivered, cheers KJ tiki


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