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I say I will buy the clothbounds later for performance, then you ask if I use the score for performances.....
It seemed more like you wanted to give your critique or something, because the question you asked was already answered in my first post. Was this your intent? Or didn't you understand from my first sentence that my plan was to buy the clothbounds later, to use during performance? No critique...It just seemed as if you meant you used paper bound for working and then you buy the clothbound for performance. Just a misunderstanding in the wording you used is all. Ahh ok, then I understand, I was afraid you were going to make a snobby comment about my performing with sheets (I wasn't used to this from you, so that was why I was surprised). But my apologies then. And to answer your question, yes my idea was to keep the paperbound one's as 'workbooks', with lots of tips and examinations in them, and to have a good looking clothbound to use for performance.
Currently working on: Perfecting the Op 2/1, studying the 27/2 last movement. Chopin Nocturne 32/2 and Posth. C#m, 'Raindrop' prelude and Etude 10/9
Repetoire: Beethoven op 2/1, 10/1(1st, 2nd), 13, 14/1, 27/1(1st, 2nd), 27/2, 28(1st, 2nd), 31/2(1st, 3rd), 49/1, 49/2, 78(1st), 79, 90, 101(1st)
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I say I will buy the clothbounds later for performance, then you ask if I use the score for performances.....
It seemed more like you wanted to give your critique or something, because the question you asked was already answered in my first post. Was this your intent? Or didn't you understand from my first sentence that my plan was to buy the clothbounds later, to use during performance? No critique...It just seemed as if you meant you used paper bound for working and then you buy the clothbound for performance. Just a misunderstanding in the wording you used is all. Ahh ok, then I understand, I was afraid you were going to make a snobby comment about my performing with sheets (I wasn't used to this from you, so that was why I was surprised). But my apologies then. And to answer your question, yes my idea was to keep the paperbound one's as 'workbooks', with lots of tips and examinations in them, and to have a good looking clothbound to use for performance. It wouldn't have been a snobby comment, but yes I was going to ask why it is that you use the score, rather than memorise for performance. Just curious.
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Of COURSE he was going to make a snobby comment about memorizing - that was fairly obvious.
But moving on past that silliness, which is appropriate for another thread...
I recently got some cloth-bound hard-cover editions from Henle and they are fantastic!
The Brahms Violin Sonatas edition lay open perfectly, are great for performance and will probably last longer in such a situation. I find that the paper editions can take a pretty severe beating at times.
This is the first time I've used these editions, and I will be spending the extra money from now on when possible. I don't mind a few nicks on the cover from heavy usage in performance. They're meant to be used, in my opinion.
I'll be getting the Beethoven Violin Sonata Editions next, but I must wait for the new edition (or reprinting - whichever it is) this October.
So there's a ringing endorsement on all counts for you.
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Well, I got the cloth bound editions and have been using them for a little while now. I must say that they are fantastic. If anything, they stay open on the music stand better than my paper editions, and they look so good sitting in my bookcase. My wife had a bit of sticker shock, but nothing life threatening  .
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Generally, cloth bound books should lay open better than paperacks. To understand why, clothbound books are held together with threads, being sew together with the thread inserted through the center of the folds. Softbound (paperback) books have the folds cut off, then notched and coated with glue (generally very quick drying hot glue) and the cover immediately attached. Because a sewn book retains the original folds, it will open flatter than a book that has the folds removed, notches cut into it and glue forced into those grooves. I owned a bookbindery for 30 years that produced millions of books using both types of bindings, as well as plastic and wire bindings. I generally buy paperback music books and have them plastic bound at Staples or Office Depot for a couple of dollars each. If I were to purchase cloth bound books I would use them for reference and display only. I treat clothbound books very lovingly!  Having said the above, a recent trend (30 years) is to use the glued method even for clothbound books as it is much less expensive.
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I've had both and prefer the paperback versions for practicing. I feel that they open flatter than the hard bound Henle editions. Paper is identical and you can't go wrong either way.
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