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You guys are putting in all the old jazz, sounds like pre-1960 to me!

I have to say I don't listen to that stuff at all, I prefer the modern players.


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JW,
Phineas - you got there in the end. One of the most overlooked players ever.

And you got 1 out of 3 from my clips which isn't bad at all.
Art Tataum is right.
Other 2 aren't but are good guesses.

Wiz, this would be just be impossible with modern players because there are so many.
Maybe we should try it anyway.

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Hey Dave,

I sent a PM but perhaps it didn't work. So here's what it was

1. Tatum
2. Wilson
3. Harris

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>> OK Knotty, just one last guess on yours. The closest I've heard was Phineas Newborn and I actually never heard him before.

Maybe this clip will make you want to hear more of him? For health reasons, the guy didn't get to record quite as much as he should have. A World of piano is a good album to get. I picked this pianist because once you've listened to him for a little bit, his sound is quite recognizable.

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Originally Posted by knotty
Hey Dave,

I sent a PM but perhaps it didn't work. So here's what it was


No, didn't get a pm

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2. Wilson
3. Harris


One of these is right but in the wrong place. The other is a good guess, but slightly the wrong era, as both the players in the clips are really pre-bop in style (thats a clue).

I'll post up the answer later today if there are no more guesses.

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I don't listen to pre-bebop myself. So I don't know anyone and obviously there aren't going to be videos on Youtube. One of the reasons I don't listen to old jazz is that I can't stand the scratchy recordings. It grates on my ears.

My wife likes Billy Holiday for example, perhaps one of the few jazz artists she likes, but I can't stand to listen to old recordings so I gravitate to newer singers. Same with Jazz pianists.

Now I'm not like Wiz in that I appreciate a more older set. But I really would say that my jazz education starts at bebop. I did start listening to Bill Evans onward when I started and then backed up to Dizzy Gillespie/Charlie Parker. That's as far back as I have gone.

I have to say though, that going too far forward is not that useful to my jazz education IMHO. I don't think I've gotten inspiration from anyone younger than Brad Mehldau.

So that's my own limitations to artists I can guess.


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Originally Posted by jazzwee
I don't listen to pre-bebop myself. So I don't know anyone and obviously there aren't going to be videos on Youtube. One of the reasons I don't listen to old jazz is that I can't stand the scratchy recordings. It grates on my ears.



Man, you gotta get back to the source! Seriously there is a ton of wonderful stuff out there, even on youtube. And pre-bop styles continued to be played long after others were playing beebop so there is no shortage of non-scratchy recordings out there. And there is a lot to learn there as well, the history of the development is important, at least to me.

I love all that old stuff - Ellington, Tatum, Teddy Wilson, Nat King Cole, Fats Waller, Albert Ammons, Willie the Lion, Jelly Roll Morton, Meade Lux Lewis - so much great music there.

Anyways...
the clips were
1-tatum
2-nat king cole
3-teddy wilson

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Hey I almost got #2! My other choice was Nat King Cole.

I listen to Ellington, Nat King Cole and Tatum. They have newer non-scratchies smile


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I have to say though the Phineas was a revelation to me. He actually is fresh sounding and I've never heard him before. That took a little research to figure out. And he's a little newer too so he should have been on my radar.

He's obviously under-appreciated. I hardly ever hear him mentioned. Reminds me of Hank Jones. I think Hank got more attention later in life. Under appreciated most of the time just because he doesn't concentrate on fireworks.


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BTW - I consider Jelly Roll Morton, Fats Waller, and Teddy Wilson in the scratchy category smile But I'm sure I hear the style through the newer artists that copy them.

Sorry BB, can't help the scratchies smile


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king cole I would have never guessed !

Teddy Wilson I think my tabs got mixed up, so I probably switched 2 and 3.
1. I found after you said easy. I thought it might be someone playing Tatum. Maybe an early Monk.


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Who says we should only recognize pianists? What about this guy:

http://www.box.net/shared/eh85qo43fx


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I got it.
So it sounds really like Parker, its Little suede shoes, but the quality is far too good.
Even remastered Parker doesnt sound like that, so its remastered .....(the other sax player who sounds so much like Parker).
I think

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It can't be Parker because of the tone. Parker's tone is distinctive.


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You guys are good!

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how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?

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Briefly going back to regularly scheduled programming, I just recorded a little Giant Steps practice in swing. It sounds awful to me for some reason. Maybe I need to break up my lines into smaller chunks to keep the rhythm flowing better. Critique of any magnitude welcome.

Giant Steps - Swing
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Originally Posted by knotty
how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?


My gosh that is so recognizable. In the first 5 seconds. smile Maybe because I listen to him a lot.

Edit - just today, I bought tickets to his concert scheduled in January...

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Originally Posted by knotty
how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?



Man I am batting 0 for 100! Sounded like an homage to Herbie, or someone who likes his style. I really have no clue though. The bassist sounds like Ron Carter though, or like he was in some of those old Herbie trios.


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