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Oh yeah Kern came to GGS a couple years back didn't she? Who played for her? I hope it was Alex... that boy is a genius.
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I agree about Helene and Lisitsa, but Kern is one cool piece of s---. Judging by one class I saw and talking to people about it.. Plus I don't mind her playing. I also agree. I don't care for the first two, but I love Olga.
"And if we look at the works of J.S. Bach — a benevolent god to which all musicians should offer a prayer to defend themselves against mediocrity... -Debussy
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Judging by the difficulty of her music, Amy Beach must have been a force to be reckoned with.
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I never understood your beef with Clara. She was a very mean spirited woman. She did everything possible to undermine the relationship of one of her lesbian daughters -this is documented- she constantly meddled in the affairs of her other children -this is also documented- she had no more talent as a composer than any of the other mediocre guys writing at the same time (that's obvious), she never lost an opportunity to denigrate Liszt, she utterly misunderstood everything about Wagner, and she never taught anyone important. She was just Clara. Of course it is received wisdom that Robert's love for Clara produced some of the greatest works ever for piano, but I'm not terribly convinced that without Clara those works would never have seen the light of day. And I hasten to add: IMO!  Nothing you said negates the fact that she was a formidable pianist, though!
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Florencia Raitzin-Legrand. I've no idea where she'd come in the pecking order, but I know that she performed once with the legendary Amadeus String Quartet, so that impressed me as a viola player.
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Yvonne Loriod, and contemporary younger generation: Gabriela Montero who is a phenomenal pianist and improviser.
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Speaking of Cliburn laureates, there was a woman at the 1997 Cliburn who made a huge impression. I haven't heard much of her recently, but she was truly a highlight of that year's competition and deserves mention: Katia Skanavi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAa5S69Lq-o
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One of my favorites is the late Maria Grinberg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rir53pUzD7Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5JzvlKUxYOlga Kern is one of my favorites, too. I once spoke with her for a while after one of her concerts and she gave me some very helpful tips for how to approach new repertoire. Marcelle Meyer, mentioned earlier, is another of my favorites. Just to name a few. - Silence
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Myra Hess and Wanda Landowska.
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Maybe Maria Yudina, Martha Argerich or Valentina Lisitsa, but i think its impossible to say who's the greatest because each interpretaion is subjective and i may enjoy one performance by say, Argerich, but then think her recording of Rach's 3rd not quite so enjoyable, and vice versa with the others. Each performer has their own idiom in terms of interpretation. If that makes sense.
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It seems to me a little late to be talking about some of these younger female pianists as "greatest" of the 20th Century, no? Don't they still have time to develop and mature further?
Or, if indeed we are talking about the greats of the 20th Century, perhaps the "youngsters" should not be on the list.
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It's never too late to learn of these people and hear them play.
Or is there no point in that too?
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It seems to me a little late to be talking about some of these younger female pianists as "greatest" of the 20th Century, no? Don't they still have time to develop and mature further?
Or, if indeed we are talking about the greats of the 20th Century, perhaps the "youngsters" should not be on the list. I think the best solution is to take "20th century" out of the equation. The Music magazine article was called "The 20 Greatest Pianists Ever", with no mention of the century. So the title of this thread seems to be based on a misunderstanding, and is restricting the choices.
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ignore this i posted it in the wrong thread
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I have a good memory of Ania Dorfman playing Scumann Opp. 9 and 12. Quite good. How about Tatiana Nikolayeva? She gave the first performance of Shostakovitch's preludes, but I have heard very few of her recordings.
According to Vladimir de Pachmann, Clara Schumann's playing was "awful".
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According to Vladimir de Pachmann, Clara Schumann's playing was "awful".
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Either it was when he heard her play or it was his opinion !
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Nina Simone
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I have a good memory of Ania Dorfman playing Scumann Opp. 9 and 12. Quite good.
Uncle George Yes, and her recording of Sauer's Echo de Vienne is fantastic; much more exciting than Sauer's own recording of it. Mel
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How could Guiomar Novaes be omitted? Undoubtedly equal to any of those in the list and surpasses most. That's exactly what I tought!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXlAZj3WqeY
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Anne Queffelec, Dubravka Tomsic, and Magda Tagliaferro should be on the list. Maybe Monique Haas, too, but I don't know her playing well enough to say for sure.
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