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Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) #1483815
07/29/10 12:50 PM
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Hello, Piano World!

Many of you will remember me. I was an active member for a good, long while.

Long story short, I was unable to practice, study, and be involved in music for about a year. I've been on medical leave from my PhD program for this amount of time. I'm 20 years old now, and I'll be getting back to my school and my piano teacher (A performance professor at my school) in about a month.

For those who didn't know me, I'm a biophysics researcher and an amateur pianist, by strict definition. I'm obsessively well-studied on Liszt , Brahms, and Scriabin (among others), as people, pianists, and composers. I took a graduate course on the literature of the piano when I was 17 and had the highest grade in the class. I performed a solo recital at my university, playing Bach-Liszt S462 #1.

I'm not trying to boast, but provide an explanation of where I'm coming from.

Nonetheless, to return to my narrative, I was able to start practicing on a grand piano early this month, and I return in another month. I had been studying Chopin Op. 38, Scriabin 8-12Bis, and Beethoven Op. 10 No. 1 before my break.

I got back to work (by myself, for this month), and I've gotten my hands around the Chopin, Liszt S139 #2, Brahms 116-3, and am learning on Beethoven Op. 7 as I start polishing the above. I plan to clean these up with my teacher this fall.

In terms of technique, my octaves are getting up to speed rather quickly, my fingers are getting more control a bit more slowly than I'd like, and my leaps are even faster and more accurate than before. However, I am a little disconcerted by the fact that I experience some muscle soreness in my forearms the day after a long practice session. Is this to be expected after jumping from 0 to 3 hours a day? Is my body just adjusting to these new, higher demands, or am I pushing it too far and risking tendonitis? I focus a lot on reducing tension and maintaining an even tone.

What would you recommend for this transition period?

Thank you all for your feedback, advice, and time,

Daniel

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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Fleeting Visions] #1483823
07/29/10 12:57 PM
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Welcome back! laugh

I think some soreness in the manner you are talking about considering not only the amount of time suddenly you are practicing but the bigger repertoire, it is probably nothing to worry about. Monitor yourself closely, though, and see if it continues. I would think that it would not take too long for the muscles to strengthen back up again.


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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Fleeting Visions] #1483824
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Visions
I took a graduate course on the literature of the piano when I was 17 and had the highest grade in the class. I performed a solo recital at my university, playing Bach-Liszt S462 #1.

I'm not trying to boast, but provide an explanation of where I'm coming from.
Yes, because your knowledge of the piano literature three years ago is totally relevant to a question about pain caused by returning to the piano after a break.

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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Fleeting Visions] #1483836
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Welcome back.....although for me it's really hello, since I only got here after you left. smile

I hope the medical issue (the one involved in the medical leave) is OK or at least not too bad. I think it's hard to know what to say about your piano playing situation without knowing more about that other thing because it might be a significant background factor, but of course that doesn't mean you have to say more about it.

Welcome back, good to see you here, and hope you're doing all right. It sounds like you are.

Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Mark_C] #1483849
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Welcome back, Daniel. You were missed.


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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Fleeting Visions] #1483858
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Hello, I guess I'd technically be one of the newer kids on the block. Sound like what your experiencing is normal. I spent 2hours yesterday tying to get use to the action of a boston parlor grand. Needless to say everything from the forearms down was slightly sore.

Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: FunkyLlama] #1483925
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Originally Posted by FunkyLlama
Originally Posted by Fleeting Visions
I took a graduate course on the literature of the piano when I was 17 and had the highest grade in the class. I performed a solo recital at my university, playing Bach-Liszt S462 #1.

I'm not trying to boast, but provide an explanation of where I'm coming from.
Yes, because your knowledge of the piano literature three years ago is totally relevant to a question about pain caused by returning to the piano after a break.

The fact that I know the literature backwards and forwards does give me a venue from which to select pieces, which choices I was expecting to have suggestions and comments on. It also is a large part of my understanding of music - the composers as people, in philosophy, and spirit, and their oeuvre.

More importantly, it shows that I know what I'm doing in spite of the fact that I'm a scientist.

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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: FunkyLlama] #1483961
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Originally Posted by FunkyLlama
Originally Posted by Fleeting Visions
I took a graduate course on the literature of the piano when I was 17 and had the highest grade in the class. I performed a solo recital at my university, playing Bach-Liszt S462 #1.

I'm not trying to boast, but provide an explanation of where I'm coming from.
Yes, because your knowledge of the piano literature three years ago is totally relevant to a question about pain caused by returning to the piano after a break.


I took FV's post not as bragging but just telling us about himself. If he said something like "I've been playing piano now for 6 months and I've mastered the Rach 3..." or something ridiculous, then I'd agree with you here.


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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Morodiene] #1483998
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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Phlebas] #1484089
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hello fleeting visions, nice to meet you smile

Take care of your tools. In the world of athletic training there is a saying that you should increase intensity and time by no more than 10% each week (hope I've got that right). Piano playing uses muscles, tendons, bones and squishy bits - try not to be seduced by scriabin into hurting yourself. A day or 2 off, shorter sessions gradually increasing in length is an investment in the piano pleasures of the future.

But just on your description, forearm muscle soreness a day later doesn't sound as worrying as some other kinds of pain. Hopefully it is similar to the sore leg muscles one gets the day after climbing a mountain - which always does me good! May I recommend vigorous daily walking to help maintain balance in the body - it seems to help protect against overuse problems for me at least. Think of it as cross-training smile

You have an interesting story - thanks for sharing it and I look forward to your posting.


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Re: Post-hiatus Regeneration (IE, I'm back!) [Re: Fleeting Visions] #1486861
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Welcome back!! I can't speak for others, but I certainly missed you! Sorry I can't offer much on the soreness issue as I'm no expert in that arena.

Good luck moving forward.

-Daniel


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FL, You must be quite bright! If you are 20yrs old and have been on a years medical leave from your PhD program, then you must have begun doctoral work at 19. Generally, young people in America have just finished freshmen year in college at 19!


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