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#1479844 - 07/23/10 12:13 PM Piano Corner stagnant  
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Must blame myself for not coming up with some fresh topic worthy of debate ...
but at the moment Piano corner seems to have gone stagnant.

At the moment we munch on the toughest morsels

1. Invitation to go on a musical tour of Europe ... 0
2. Schumann recital ... stewing endlessly
3. Prodigy thread has disintegrated into advice of a good pizza
4. The rubbishing of Schoenberg hasn’t attracted many clowns
5. Scriabin takes a knock ... fades at 2
6. Ravel Concerto dies ... 0
7. Pedalling closes down ... 2
8. Beethoven melodies keeps the flags flying at 42 ... hurrah!!
9. Cranky tuning of a violin is prodded to 12
10. Zhang concert is outdated at 42
11. Liutsa dissipates
12. Most difficult pieces can’t keep up steam

With such clever chaps out there ... surely it’s possible to come up with more challenging threads

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#1479852 - 07/23/10 12:22 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: btb]  
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13. The stagnant topic sits there...stagnant as well.

#1479860 - 07/23/10 12:35 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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If looking at it like that, just about every topic that pops up would be stagnant....let's talk about the Rach 3!

#1479866 - 07/23/10 12:39 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: JdhPiano924]  
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Complaining but not doin anything about it is surely the way to go.



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#1479868 - 07/23/10 12:40 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: JdhPiano924]  
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Originally Posted by jdhampton924
If looking at it like that, just about every topic that pops up would be stagnant....let's talk about the Rach 3!



No, let's talk about Rach 1!

#1479870 - 07/23/10 12:41 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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YES Rach 1!!! Just started learning it. The second movement is nothing short of addicting - Rachmaninoff is the master of harmonic progressions.



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#1479874 - 07/23/10 12:50 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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Just listened to the Rach one again after a while yesterday, a friend of mine and fellow pianist is dying to learn it. Angelina you are correct the harmonic progressions in the concerto are nothing short of genius.

#1479875 - 07/23/10 12:51 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: btb]  
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I think part of it might be the new site that one of our members started and 'advertised' on here.


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#1479876 - 07/23/10 12:52 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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Hmmm I don't think I've heard the Rach 1 in its entirety. I should do that this weekend with my good friend, Naxos.


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#1479935 - 07/23/10 02:27 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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Originally Posted by AngelinaPogorelich
YES Rach 1!!! Just started learning it. The second movement is nothing short of addicting - Rachmaninoff is the master of harmonic progressions.


oooh awesome! I've been trying to decide what concerto to learn but there's too many good ones. I really love that one though...great harmony and melody too!

#1479941 - 07/23/10 02:39 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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These forums need more visitors in general. I think we should all make an effort to introduce at least one other person. :P

#1479942 - 07/23/10 02:40 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: btb]  
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Where, O where is Nyiregyhazi??? We need him to get into a food fight with Keyboardklutz!


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#1479957 - 07/23/10 03:10 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: jazzyprof]  
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Speaking of Rach 1 second movement, the ending reminds me of something and I just remembered what: the end of Mendelssohn Op 38 no 6

#1479959 - 07/23/10 03:18 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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People seem to be avoiding the topic.... smile


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#1479962 - 07/23/10 03:23 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Mark_C]  
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
People seem to be avoiding the topic.... smile


... because it's stagnant.


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#1479965 - 07/23/10 03:28 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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Originally Posted by WinsomeAllegretto

No, let's talk about Rach 1!


Magnificent piece! I love it so much! I like it better than Grieg's (the one it was based off of), especially the gnarly intro and cadenza and just the overall drama in the first movement. I still can't believe he wrote it when he was my age... That's the first concerto I listened through all 3 movements. smile

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These forums need more visitors in general. I think we should all make an effort to introduce at least one other person. :P


I could probably get many people to join. laugh (Well, a few.) I'll start spreading the word!

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#1479971 - 07/23/10 03:36 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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Originally Posted by WinsomeAllegretto

No, let's talk about Rach 1!

Or we could talk about Lang Lang... whome

Failing that, how many here like anchovies on their pizza? (yummy)


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#1479980 - 07/23/10 03:50 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: BruceD]  
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Mark_C
People seem to be avoiding the topic.... smile

... because it's stagnant.

....and difficult.

BTW.....I had noticed too that the forum has been much less active lately. A lot of it is probably just "summer," but I think that other thing is involved too.


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#1479982 - 07/23/10 03:51 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Orange Soda King]  
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Betelgeuse, baby!
The revised version (the one that most people know) postdates the Third Piano Concerto. The little known original version comes from his conservatory years and uses (mostly) the same thematic material, but is basically an entirely different composition.


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Die Stockfisch bleiben dicke,
Die Karpfen viel fressen,
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Sie bleiben wie alle.
#1479986 - 07/23/10 03:57 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Janus K. Sachs]  
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Originally Posted by Janus K. Sachs
The revised version (the one that most people know) postdates the Third Piano Concerto. The little known original version comes from his school years and uses (mostly) the same thematic material, but is basically an entirely different composition.


I didn't realize it was so different. Do people ever play the original?

#1479987 - 07/23/10 03:59 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: argerichfan]  
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Originally Posted by argerichfan
Originally Posted by WinsomeAllegretto

No, let's talk about Rach 1!

Or we could talk about Lang Lang... whome


haha I think that smiley says it all.

#1479988 - 07/23/10 03:59 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Janus K. Sachs]  
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I think things like this go in cycles. Give it some time, things will pick back up. I'll have peperoni and mushrooms on mine please...


I'll figure it out eventually.
Until then you may want to keep a safe distance.
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#1479994 - 07/23/10 04:10 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]  
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Originally Posted by WinsomeAllegretto
Originally Posted by Janus K. Sachs
The revised version (the one that most people know) postdates the Third Piano Concerto. The little known original version comes from his school years and uses (mostly) the same thematic material, but is basically an entirely different composition.


I didn't realize it was so different. Do people ever play the original?
Rarely. The original version (both full score and reduction) is on IMSLP, so you can play it for yourself.


Die Krebs gehn zurücke,
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Die Karpfen viel fressen,
Die Predigt vergessen.

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Sie bleiben wie alle.
#1479995 - 07/23/10 04:12 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Janus K. Sachs]  
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Yes I have seen that, thanks.

#1480007 - 07/23/10 04:28 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Orange Soda King]  
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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
I'll start spreading the word!
Maybe you could do a a version of this song on Youtube?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=new+york+new+york+liza+minelli&aq=2


Just use PW, PW instead of you know what.

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#1480025 - 07/23/10 04:52 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: pianoloverus]  
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pianoloverus, you are my favorite person on this thread. Your contributions are amazing, but you also have one of the best senses of humor.

#1480038 - 07/23/10 05:06 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: jazzyprof]  
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Originally Posted by jazzyprof
Where, O where is Nyiregyhazi??? We need him to get into a food fight with Keyboardklutz!

He was banned. Need some drama? Watch Madmen this Sunday on AMC. I know I'll be watching.


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#1480047 - 07/23/10 05:16 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: eweiss]  
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Why was he banned?


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Why was he banned?

For writing 5000 words on hand tension. I kid. I don't know. Probably for arguing. You know, that old chestnut. smile


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#1480062 - 07/23/10 05:31 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: eweiss]  
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I think it's the banning of the "edgy" types that's causing this descent into stagnation. A vibrant forum needs the occasional flame war. grin


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