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Yamaha vs Roland #1476558
07/18/10 12:58 PM
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YAMAHA VS ROLAND DIGI PIANO


I have been to a few local music shops and am wondering on the general pro's and con's of each manufacturer?

What brand would you buy and why?

Thanks

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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: kungfuthug] #1476567
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For starters, Yamaha, excuse me, YAMAHA has three vowels while ROLAND only has two.

I prefer companies with three vowels.


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: kungfuthug] #1476575
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Originally Posted by kungfuthug
YAMAHA VS ROLAND DIGI PIANO


I have been to a few local music shops and am wondering on the general pro's and con's of each manufacturer?

What brand would you buy and why?

Thanks


In general, and really you have to compare specific models and not brands. But if you have to compare brands, I'd say that Yamaha's grand piano sounds like a yamaha grand piano while Roland tries for a "American/European" piano sound. The Yamaha is brighter. (But then many DPs have multiple built-in sounds you can can find counter examples by suitable tweaking parameters.)

If we are comparing top line stage pianos the the key actions are different. The Yamaha s somewhat firm, Rolland's PHA-II has some bounce. But again each makes a variety of pianos

I think Roland wins with the non-piano sounds and the amount of adjustably of the piano sound. But many people like the sound and feel of the Yamahas even if Roland might beat them in terms of specs and features

It's like asking abut Nikon v. Canon.

Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: ChrisA] #1476577
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I like my Roland 307 more than a similarly priced yamaha clp when listening through the headphones. I feel the Roland sound has more resolution but its flaw is its speakers and cabinet. Sound gets lost in translation. My 307 sounds better (to me) through 30 dollar headphones than through its own speakers.

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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: Art A.] #1476589
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Ultimately, both brands are good in their own right. What it comes down to is what you personally feel is best for you.

I was a Yamaha guy my whole life (U3 acoustic, DX7 synth at school), yet I decided that the Roland RD700GX stage piano was a better choice for me vs. the equivalent Yamaha CP5/50 stage piano at this point in time. I don't think think there would've been gross disappointment either way for me, just which way I leaned and what I prefer. Heck, I played a Japan-made Fender Jazz bass that I thought was the best playing and feeling bass, yet I experienced the "authentic" American Standard Jazz Bass in my hands and I thought it played and sounded like crap.

Instruments are individual choices. Make sure you play what feels best for you, or you simply won't play it at all. And make sure you take a pair of headphones with a 1/4" plug along so you can get a feel for both any built-in speakers and the native sound from the instrument. Never rely on the cheap external monitor speakers you see in a lot of music stores to judge the instrument.


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: pianodilemma] #1476612
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I went through this same dilemma myself when looking for a stage piano. I tried several different models by both manufacturers in several shops, and struggled to make my mind up. Then I tried a Kawai MP4 (forerunner of the current MP5) and fell in love instantly...


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: robdean] #1476690
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YAMAHA
Pro's
-Piano sound preferred by many
-Keyboard touch preferred by many
Con's
-Not a Roland

ROLAND
Pro's
-Piano sound preferred by many
-Keyboard touch preferred by many
Con's
-Not a Yamaha

These are two nearly equal competitors and it all boils down to personal preference. You really do have to make your own choice. Listening to the opinions of others will only lead to disappointment, unless your preference is to rely on the opinions of others.

-SoundThumb
(Chose Roland based on the opinion of others, and I'm sticking with it!)


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: SoundThumb] #1476706
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My experiences with the products and support of both companies leaves me only one conclusion, it would be Yamaha for me hands down. In the 24 years since I first started buying products from both, Yamaha gear has performed well for me and their support/service has been excellent though rarely needed. Unfortunately for me, Roland gear performed well but their service/support was of such poor quality (even on a brand new keyboard) that I eventually sold all of my Roland gear and vowed to never buy from them again. I'm sure others may have had a different experience, but this was mine and it sold me on Yamaha gear.
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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: kungfuthug] #1476927
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Hmmm, tough one.
I can give you the definitive, undisputed answer on this one.

Roland are better, because I prefer them and I also happen to have one.


Now seriously, try them out and see which you prefer.
to the above poster, I found Roland support was excellent.

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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: bobbo] #1476941
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After testdriving top-of-the-line Yamaha & Roland DP's first, I eventually went for a top-of-the-line Kawai DP, letting my ears and fingers decide. By the way, Kawai support is excellent too.


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: TADutchman] #1476968
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I can't help enjoying that so far there are more strong brand preferences for Kawai than either Yamaha or Roland... there are wise people on this site!


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: robdean] #1477005
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Originally Posted by robdean
I can't help enjoying that so far there are more strong brand preferences for Kawai than either Yamaha or Roland... there are wise people on this site!


I must be not understanding something here. Kawai is certainly less popular than Yamaha and Roland in terms of DPs. For one thing, it is very hard to even find a Kawai to play in many areas. You should certainly check out Kawai, though.

Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: Melodialworks Music] #1477020
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"For one thing, it is very hard to even find a Kawai to play in many areas."

Too true. Yet where I live, Guitar Center and the Kawai dealer are one short block from each other. You could exhaust yourself at one place, and recruit your strength with a dim sum lunch on the way to the other.

Yet they call the South Bay a 'bedroom community.'


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: Jeff Clef] #1477027
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I couldn't decide, so I went for the best deal on the gray market...
And I've been playing my Roland HP 203 happily ever since...

Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: Melodialworks Music] #1477076
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Originally Posted by Melodialworks Music
Kawai is certainly less popular than Yamaha and Roland in terms of DPs. For one thing, it is very hard to even find a Kawai to play in many areas.
That's the problem I had faced. Before buying a Clavinova, I had a Kawai 50" upright. So I was biased toward Kawai. But I couldn't find a Kawai dealer.

One dealer had a listing (can't remember if it was online or in the yellow pages) saying he sold Kawai. I called ... no, he doesn't sell Kawai.

I found not a single Kawai piano at the local Sam Ash (nor any Rolands ... just Yamaha and Casio).

I found a piano dealer who sold Roland. No other digitals.

I finally bought the Clavinova at another piano dealer.

It turns out that there really is a Kawai dealer in my area (nearly 20 miles away), but I didn't discover that until after I'd bought the Clav.

Others here have said that Kawais are hard to find. And I'll agree. I think it's highly likely that I'd be playing on a Kawai right now if only it had been easier to find one.

Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: MacMacMac] #1477105
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It's good you are looking at Yamaha and Roland because those are the top 2 brands and I think a lot of people have trouble like you deciding between them.

Yamaha- I definitely like their sound better (although I have never tried a Roland RD700GX with SN expansion which I hear is really good). I also like their features and general design better.

Roland- I definitely like the action of the FP series the most (althought the recent Yamaha CP models might have changed my mind). This reason (good action) was the only reason to go with a Roland for me, as the sound is not as pleasant to me and I just don't feel like Roland is my brand, it just seems kind of foreign to me.

Kawai- I don't understand. I have an MP5 and it's sound lags far behind both Roland and Yamaha, although other models Kawai may be different/better. The main benefit to Kawai is you get so many features for such a low price that they are much better competitively. If only they had better sound it would be a hands down win.

I started with MP5 a year ago, then I wanted a Roland FP-4 for the past few months until about a week ago when I tried the Yamaha CP-50 for the first time which is now my new dream "get" instrument.

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Originally Posted by blueston
Kawai- I don't understand. I have an MP5 and it's sound lags far behind both Roland and Yamaha, although other models Kawai may be different/better. The main benefit to Kawai is you get so many features for such a low price that they are much better competitively. If only they had better sound it would be a hands down win.

I agree that Kawai's good old stagepiano's are outdated compared to the latest generation Roland, Yamaha and Kawai sound engines. Come on Kawai, let's introduce some new generation stagepiano's! By the way, I also find that Yamaha's current console DP's are outdated.


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Re: Yamaha vs Roland [Re: TADutchman] #1478126
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Ok, so I want to re-tune this thread...

Price comparison.

What is the equivalent priced models from Roland vs these Yamaha models

YDP 141
YDP 161

CLP 320

I have done research mostly on Yamaha so far and am wondering if Roland has anything relative to the pricing of the above models.

THX


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