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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone knew the actual cost (suggested retail and/or retail) of a new Kawai EX concert grand?

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About $150,000 for the Kawai EX and $180,000 for the Shigeru Kawai EX. Those are MSRP. Larry Fine's book estimates that you could probably get each for somewhere between $25K-$30K less. Check out the PIANOBUYER link on the right of this page. It has all the pricing info you could ever need and is free to view online.


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Originally Posted by AJF
About $150,000 for the Kawai EX and $180,000 for the Shigeru Kawai EX. Those are MSRP. Larry Fine's book estimates that you could probably get each for somewhere between $25K-$30K less. Check out the PIANOBUYER link on the right of this page. It has all the pricing info you could ever need and is free to view online.
I believe the range of discounts from SMP(not from MSRP, don't use it!) the PB suggests is 10%-30%. The SMP's are 123K and 152K. So you could expect the range of discounts from SMP for the Kawai EX to be 12K-39K and the range for the Shigeru EX to be 15K-45K. The PB has a clear explanation of MSRP and SMP at the beginning of the pricing list.

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Thanks for clarifying.


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Originally Posted by AJF
About $150,000 for the Kawai EX and $180,000 for the Shigeru Kawai EX. Those are MSRP. Larry Fine's book estimates that you could probably get each for somewhere between $25K-$30K less. Check out the PIANOBUYER link on the right of this page. It has all the pricing info you could ever need and is free to view online.


I was under the impression that all EX concert grands were of the "Shigeru" variety.


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Kawai EX concert grand ,there are two types,one is EX,one is SK-EX,EX's retail price is about 170,000 ,SK-EX is about 220,000

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MSRP:
April, 2010
EX-G $159,995

April, 2009
SK-EX $188,995

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Why should a consumer care about MSRP?? Only SMP matters IMO.

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Why should a consumer care about the EX? smile Unless you have your own private concert hall...


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When you broke in a concert hall's storage and was seeing multiple pianos, but your vehicle capacity was limited. One of the pianos in the storage was Kawai EX but you did not know the value of the Kawai EX and you posted the question. Did you?
In which case, I would suggest you to play all of them and take whichever you liked. I am afraid you have enogh time to call techs to have them examine the pianos.

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A lot. But, I recently saw a 10 year old 9' Bechstein on eBay for 29,000... too bad I decided to go to college.

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Originally Posted by Grand Piano Haus
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MSRP:
April, 2010
EX-G $159,995

April, 2009
SK-EX $188,995

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At those prices, aren't Kawai concert grands higher priced than Steinway, Bosendorfer, Yamaha, Bechstein, etc? Does anyone really pay that kind of price? I've been to a whole lot of concerts and never seen anything but Steinways or Yamahas on stage. I'm not saying that I don't think Kawai's are excellent, I'm sure they are, but I don't see Kawais concert grands on stage anywhere.


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Higher than Steinway and Yamaha, but not Boesendorfer or Bechstein... those broke the 200s not too long ago. You don't see many of the Kawais because they make less concert grands than other high end makers by a lot. The Shigeru Kawai, especially, is worthy of any stage.

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The Shigeru Kawai, especially, is worthy of any stage.


I would agree. In hearing Shigeru and S&S both in a venue for a high-profile audience, in my opinion the Shigeru blew away the S&S.


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Originally Posted by La Vega
Why should a consumer care about the EX? smile Unless you have your own private concert hall...


Some members here own concert grands in a home setting. Others, I am sure, are contemplating buying a concert grand for their home. It's not unheard of.

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These are just the well known published concerts, the ex's are one of the finest hand made concert grands around.

The 9th Van Cliburn International
Piano Competition (USA)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 10th Tchaikovsky International
Piano Competition (Russia)
Top two prize winners selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 8th Sydney International
Piano Competition (Australia)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 2nd Dublin International
Piano Competition (Ireland)
Top six prize winners selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 5th Dublin International
Piano Competition (Ireland)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 2nd Rachmaninoff International
Piano Competition (Russia)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 11th Santander International
Piano Competition (Spain)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 45th Ferrucio Busoni International
Piano Competition (Italy)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 23rd William Kapell International
Piano Competition (USA)
Top three prize winners selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 42nd ARD International
Piano Competition (Germany)
First and Second prize winners selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 13th Iturbi International
Piano Competition (Spain)
First and Second prize winners selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 14th Iturbi International
Piano Competition (Spain)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 12th Vianna da Motta International
Piano Competition (Macao)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 8th Premio Dino Ciani International
Piano Competition (Italy)
Top three prize winners selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 2nd Hamamatsu International
Piano Competition (Japan)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 22nd Casagrande International
Piano Competition (Italy)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 25th Casagrande International
Piano Competition (Italy)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 27th Casagrande International
Piano Competition (Italy)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 30th Casagrande International
Piano Competition (Italy)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 14th International Chopin
Piano Competition (Poland)
Second prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

The 9th Hamamatsu International
Piano Competition (Japan)
First prize winner selected the EX Concert Piano.

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Originally Posted by La Vega
Why should a consumer care about the EX? smile Unless you have your own private concert hall...

A lot of PianoWorld members have concert grands in their homes - in a suitable home, voiced appropriately.

When I bought my 225cm Grotrian a few years ago, my final choice was between it and a refurbished 277cm Hamburg Steinway. If my home was only a whisker bigger, the Steinway would have been mine.


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I have a 9' concert grand. They are wonderful, if you have the space.


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