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Yamaha Soft-Close Fallboard Question
#13725 02/17/05 12:03 PM
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Does anyone know how I can tell whether the used (mid-1989) Yamaha C3 I purchased from a private seller is supposed to have the soft-close fallboard feature?

It doesn't seem to work. I'm wondering if this feature was added on later models (1990 or later), or if it is there, but just needs repair. We are having a repairman come check it out next week, but if anyone knows that this wasn't available until later models, I'll know not to have him waste his time...


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As far as being available on later models, I am not sure when the soft close feature was introduced.

I think a C3 from '89 would have it. Just a quick note: the mechanism is a spring based system that will eventually tire. The spring always kicks in as the board is closing, but the rate of close is dependent on how strong the spring is. As the fall board is opened/closed over the years, the spring will lose tension

Here is how you tell:
Remove the fallboard: The fallboard is not screwed into anything - it rests on to small bars sticking out on either side that cradle into small small housings located on either side of the inner rim.

Stand in front of the fallboard, and with two hands open the fallboard half way. Gently pull straight up with your hands on each end of the fallboard. There may be a little pressure at first, so try to avoid bashing it into the bottom of the pinblock when it gives.

When the fallboard is off, look at the left side hinge. You will notice a small circular mechanism with small metal bar that rotates (As opposed to a simple little metal bar). This means that it has the slow close mechanism.


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Thanks, Angeleno, for the tip on how to check this out. We will look at this tonight. smile


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It's a simple feature that gets played sky-high by many makers and their salesmen today.

Add-on cost to any one of our models: $ 25 exact.

NOT k's, by the way..... laugh

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If the fallboard falls on your hands, you will have learnt your lesson. Paulo (did not happen again)


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Thanks, everyone.

We checked last night -- no soft-close mechanism.

Norbert -- you mention that it can be retrofitted inexpensively. Is this something we could do ourselves? If so, how can we get the parts? (My husband is very mechanically inclined, so unless it requires a very unusual technique, I'm sure he could do it.)


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Any good tech. can install a soft close mechanism, but don't force the fallboard closed faster than it wants to go. These valves can break as well.

Personally, I am happier with a well counter weighted fallboard. They close gently with nothing that can wear or break.

Just my humble opinion,


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AmRove:

Don't know if these mecanisms are already available after market.

Now: Who do you think *invented* the slow closing fallboard anyways?

Guess, folks......hehehe shocked

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Rather than try to install a soft-close mechanism such as Yamaha has on their newer models, it might be easier - and just as practical - to do what Estonia does laugh , right?


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AmRove,

They are available aftermarket. See my post above.


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I don't know, Norbert.. but I'm betting he/she is from..

*Germany!*

I just did some searches and looked in LF, I got nothing. Now I just have to know.


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I used the above tips to remove the fallboard on my Kawai... thanks!...

... and fetched a pencil that fell back there making noises! Something tells me this won't be the first time. I used the opportunity to take some photos of all that lovely plastic! Clumsy me unstuck part of the red felt on the fallboard so I glued it back on myself. Gotta be more gentle next time.

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I'm actually surprised that the 1989 Yamaha C3 whether gray market or not does not have it. All the preowned 1989- up Yamaha C3 I've owned which is many, had it. Over the years the hydraulic cylinder starts to wear out and the slow fallboard isn't so slow anymore. The Yamaha system uses counter weights along with the cylinder implanted in the fallboard. If you look closely there are numerical settings on the cylinder which coincides with the counter weights. Yamaha USA sells those replacement cylinders. More complicated than it seems !. One could actually retrofit the Yamaha system though you have one bite at the apple as for routing that cylindrical hole in the side of the fallboard.
You could call Mark at Yamaha USA,who is very knowledgeable,Oh! thats right,he works for Kawai US now. grin


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