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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: BDB] #1421764
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Originally Posted by BDB
Françaix's Concertino is pretty easy.

Who dat? smile

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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: Mark_C] #1421785
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
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Françaix's Concertino is pretty easy.

Who dat? smile

You can check Wiki for a quick fix. I've heard the piece -though have not seen the score- but with due respect, it's just not a style of writing I care for. You can throw in Ibert's music too.

For me, the great French writing between the wars was for the organ. And of course this continued well into the 2nd half of the 20th century with Messiaen and company. Next to Messiaen's La Nativité or Les Corps Glorieux, Françaix comes off as, well, fluff.

IMO of course...




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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: argerichfan] #1421799
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Originally Posted by argerichfan
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Françaix's Concertino is pretty easy.

Who dat? smile

You can check Wiki for a quick fix.....

I know......but unless I know something is worth looking into, I ask for more first. smile

I imagine I'm far from the only one here who never heard of him.....

Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: Mark_C] #1421816
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There are plenty of people who have never heard of Messiaen, for that matter. I wonder how many people could name all of Les Six.

It is just a piece I have looked at. Different people have different tastes, Besides, intermediate-level concertos are not likely as "good" as other concertos, particularly if one's taste is for virtuoso music.

Hinson has a guide to music for piano and orchestra, with a listing of composers who wrote easier pieces.


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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: BDB] #1421817
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I'd come across Francaix's wind and brass music, but not this concertino. Played a cute little canon for French horn and piano of his once - it was at the interval of about one beat, I think. You had to keep your nerve in order to not join the other player! smile


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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: currawong] #1421826
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Bach's keyboard concertos are not too hard. The second movement of the F minor is really simple.

Mozart wrote a few simpler piano concertos, but they are hard to play with the correct style.


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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: BDB] #1421870
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Originally Posted by BDB
There are plenty of people who have never heard of Messiaen, for that matter. I wonder how many people could name all of Les Six.


After struggling for a while, I decided I was forever missing one, so my heart cinq.

Badummmm..shhhhh.

Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: Piano*Dad] #1421967
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The Haydn D major is on the easier side, and several of the earlier Mozart concerti are technically not too bad, though the margin of error in Mozart is always less because the writing is so exposed.

Of course, when you play the last movement of the Haydn up to speed, I suspect it's a little harder.

The Khachaturian is supposed to be easier as well, even though it sounds showy.

The Chopin concertos are not among the easier ones, IMHO. In fact, I'd say they are among the hardest. The pianist is pretty much the whole show, and they are quite demanding musically. And for me, good performances of the Chopin concertos are rare. (Right now, Evgeny Kissin is going around the world giving performances of 2nd concerto that are spectacular.)

If you want to do concerti, I'm a big fan of starting with Mozart. It helps you develop your phrasing and your touch, your overall musicianship, and your ability to collaborate with an orchestra. These were really the first big concertos as we think of them that were written for the piano with the pianist in mind (Haydn's are mostly for the harpsichord, as are Bach's), and for me, they are the models for everything that came afterward. Good Mozart players are rare, I think. That's one reason I love Mitsuko Uchida.

The Beethoven 1 is not too bad; as concertos go it is probably one of the easier ones, but it's not that easy.


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Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
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After struggling for a while, I decided I was forever missing one, so my heart cinq.

Badummmm..shhhhh.


Love it! (Shows what taste I have! smile


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^^ I did too. ^^ ha

Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: Mark_C] #1422045
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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: BDB] #1454720
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Probably a late response, but, believe it or not, Alkan wrote a really easy piano concerto. Look for his Concerto da Camera in C# minor on IMSLP; it's Op. 10 either 1 or 2. I've heard the Concerto da Camera no. 3 and it also seems easy, but I couldn't tell you where to find the score online for that. It might be worth ordering hard copies though.

Anyway, good luck.


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I heard mozart concs, beethoven n.2, kabalevsky n.3 if you have good fingers the grieg is also good.

Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: GeorgeB] #1454902
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Originally Posted by EtudeBasher
I heard mozart concs, beethoven n.2, kabalevsky n.3 if you have good fingers the grieg is also good.


I wouldn't say that the Grieg is one of the easier ones, though...certainly one of the easier of the romantic concertos, but not an easy concerto in itself.


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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: Skorpius] #1454904
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Originally Posted by Skorpius
I wouldn't say that the Grieg is one of the easier ones, though...certainly one of the easier of the romantic concertos, but not an easy concerto in itself.


The Grieg is definitely a popular choice for a beginner concerto because it is generally pretty hard to butcher. Take a Mozart concerto on the other hand, make one mistake, and you're out for good.


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true...but couldn't the same thing be said about bach concertos?


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Re: Piano Concertos that aren't so difficult for the pianist [Re: Mr_Lion] #1455017
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Originally Posted by Mr_Lion
Could you list some for me please? Any help would be appreciated.


Given that your signature says you're working on Mozart K. 283, the most obvious choice would be the C Major concerto, K. 246. It's a wonderful work, and a great introduction to concerto playing.

The other obvious choice, which others have mentioned, is the Haydn D Major concerto. It would also fit quite well with your current rep.

If you're looking for something a bit more modern, consider Dianne Goolkasian Rahbee's "Concertino #1 'Peasant Folk Dance'." It has some showy parts, but isn't too difficult overall. It also includes an accompaniment for 2nd piano and optional percussion, so if you can't find a full orchestra to play with, you can still have an interesting performance that involves more than just 2nd piano. (It's quite clever!)

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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
Beethoven's piano concerto ?1? in C major seems pretty basic compared to others.

I do really love chopin piano concertos, but not sure if those are the easiest.
indeed, among the most difficult!


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Play Cage's 4'33 with orchestra, pretty easy..


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