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#1455225 - 06/12/10 04:16 PM Counting rhythm  
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Hello all,I wish there was a way to scan this into this forum.I will describe a measure in which I am unclear as to how to count the rhythm.The song comes from "Cocktail Piano Styles" book by Bill Irwin.This problem that I have is from the song "What's New".It is the 23rd measure.In 4/4 time measure.RH(dotted eighth note followed by a sixteenth note.This repeats for 3 more beats.)I have been counting:1 a +a,2 etc. It's the left hand that I ca';nt seem to figure out how it goes with the right hand.LH(quarter note which has a eighth note rest over it followed by an eighth note). This repeats for 3 more beats.Do you know of any books preferably with CD that are good at teaching rhythm?Thank you.Tango

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#1455292 - 06/12/10 05:52 PM Re: Counting rhythm [Re: Tango]  
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In 4/4 time, you will need to figure out four beats per measure and each quarter note receives one beat.

Regarding the LH, when you say, "quarter note which has an eighth note rest over it followed by an eighth note", do you mean that the rest follows the quarter note?

What you describe for the LH seems to have more than four beats per measure?


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#1455312 - 06/12/10 06:17 PM Re: Counting rhythm [Re: tranquillo]  
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Without seeing the score it's impossible to tell, but I would guess the the LH has two voices. The eighth note would be played half way through the quarter note and while the quarter note is still being sustained.


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#1455378 - 06/12/10 07:16 PM Re: Counting rhythm [Re: Studio Joe]  
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Hi Tango
You can join boxnet, it's free. It's just a simple upload into boxnet, share the link and paste it here for us to see the score.

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#1455438 - 06/12/10 09:43 PM Re: Counting rhythm [Re: Tango]  
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Originally Posted by Tango
It is the 23rd measure.In 4/4 time easure.RH(dotted eighth note followed by a sixteenth note.This repeats for 3 more beats.)I have been counting:1 a +a,2 etc. It's the left hand that I can't seem to figure out how it goes with the right hand. LH(quarter note which has a eighth note rest over it followed by an eighth note). This repeats for 3 more beats.Do you know of any books preferably with CD that are good at teaching rhythm?Thank you.Tango

It sounds as if the left hand in the measure in question is written in two voices. In other words, a quarter note is played and held for the length of a quarter note, and in the middle of the quarter note you are to play an eighth note.

Normally 1/16th notes are counted 1-e-&-a, 2-e-&-a, etc. Just for the sake of illustration let's assume that measure 23 has the following notes in the right hand:

1/4 | 1/4 | dotted 1/8 & 1/16 | 1/4

and the left hand has the following notes:

1/4 | 1/4 | 1/4 1/8 rest and 1/8 | 1/4

You could count the measure:
  • 1-e-&-a, 2-e-&-a, 3-e-&-a, 4-e-&-a
  • 1, 2, 3-e-&-a, 4
  • 1 and, 2 and, 3-e-&-a, 4 and
Regardless of which you use the 1/8th note in the left hand would be struck on the "&" of beat three and the 1/16 note would be struck on the "a" of beat three. The left hand 1/4 note in beat three would be held until the left hand 1/4 note in beat 4 is struck.

Hope that helps.

Last edited by photowriters; 06/12/10 09:43 PM.

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#1455884 - 06/13/10 05:11 PM Re: Counting rhythm [Re: Tango]  
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Hello all,Could one of you kind people email me and I will email you back a copy of that measure?LMICHAL@nycap.rr.com Thanks.


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