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Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? #1447284
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After reading about some deals on the 700 series, I wonder if anyone has an opinion of the two models? (FP7 vs 700GX) I might add, the Yamaha CP50 seems to have many of the voices and rhythms (with some programming work) so which is the better choice or choices. Down to the wire, ordering this week!

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Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: volunteer] #1447329
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Roland vs. Yamaha, based on the 700GX/FP7 and CP50, the 700GX wins hands-down for the following reasons:

- better key action - subjective, though the keys feel very nice and have escapement simulation vs. plastic w/o escapement on the CP50
- better controller - can change sounds while holding notes without interruption (CP50 stops when you switch), better zone control, mod and pitch bend control vs. only one for CP50, rudimentary drawbars for organs
- expandability - lots of SRX expansion cards including the very nice sounding supernatural pianos
- more sounds to play with - 3 pianos vs. 1 in the CP50

Where the Roland loses to the Yamaha:

- weight/portability - can be important if you're gigging
- warranty/service - Yamaha generally is better from what I've seen, though Roland seems to have been reasonably responsive to issues on the early models
- display = I admit I do like the display in the Yamaha's better

I personally don't think that it's worth spending the money on the FP7 when you can spend a bit more and get the 700GX. FP7 has plastic keytops and no escapement, but is basically the same action.

If you're comparing the CP5 to the 700GX, then it's a bit more dicey, though the CP5 has a non-graded and lighter action. I still give the nod to the RD700GX

If you're comparing the CP50 to the FP7, I would say that it's also tough, though the weight factor would definitely start playing in if you were gigging (and I'd just use a Nord Electro 3 if I really needed portability).

Can't stress enough that you make sure you play all of them to make sure you like the action prior to purchase.

Finally, Guitar Center (if you're near one) has 15% off, so I walked out the door at my local GC with my 700GX for just over $2400.


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Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: pianodilemma] #1447349
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I'm married to someone who has been servicing yamaha and roland for 27 years. I worked there full time for 10 years and still work one day a week so my viewpoint is up to date. It's a wash as far as access to service is concerned. For a long time Roland had the nod but that has reversed in the last 3 or so years. They're both above average and are way ahead of Korg, Nord (sadly) and Casio. FTR, while I have some issues about Kawai as a company, their access to service is also good.

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Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: KurtZ] #1448844
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I have an FP-7 and about a week ago I got an RD700GX. The FP-7 is great. It has a very nice piano sound and the action is decent. They keys feel very plasticky(as they are plastic). The built in speakers are decent. I paid about $1850 for mine about 1.5 years ago and I've been very satisfied.

About 6 months ago, I tried the RD-700GX. I couldn't believe the "depth" of the piano sound. Since that time I have wanted one. I had been searching for a good deal because I didn't want to pay $2500 or so and over time, the prices have come down. At this time, the local Sam Ash has 2 demos going for 2k. I actually picked up their last one that wasn't a demo (new in box) for just under 2k and I've been extremely pleased. I've stopped playing my FP-7. I can't get over how good the "fake" ivory keys feel (which is just a porous plastic) and the feeling of the action in general. I feel like I'm much closer to playing on a real piano with my new Roland and that is why I got it. I couldn't be happier with it.


Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: Pedies] #1448855
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Yeah, agreed! I just got an Rd700GX and it feels so good playing it. The action is like buttah and feels better than any upright and most grand that I've played. Sometimes it's laughable what people are comparing these pianos to, holding them up to 20K piano standards. The piano sounds are quite good, very good compared to others. I found a few weird things like the C6 having this oscillation on the first piano sound. I personally think that the other sounds in it are pretty bad though. I went through them and only felt passionate about 15 of them. The EP's, for some reason, don't grab me that much. But the action makes up for it!

Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: volunteer] #1448857
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Originally Posted by volunteer
..I wonder if anyone has an opinion of the two models? (FP7 vs 700GX)


Back when the RD700 cost $700 more than the FP7 you'd need to think a little about which to buy. But with the recent price reduction on the RD700GX I don't see how they are able to sell any FP7.

People are talking mostly about the better keys and the sound but also the RD700 has that expansion slot which I think adds a lot of value.


Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: ChrisA] #1448887
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I agree, the other voices in the RD-700GX are something of a let-down. I don't want a brand new ROMpler with creaky old sample sets.

I'm waiting for a Roland stage piano with PHA III and SN pianos, and I would really appreciate it if they would toss all of their other best sounds in there too (SN everything please) - no super expensive 64MB (!) expansion cards please. I'd pay $3k easy for that. Buttons or sliders for ALL the organ drawbars wouldn't be too much to ask either, would it? Upgradable / uploadable sample memory would probably be beyond the pale and crossing the line though.

I tried a lowly Casio PX-330 today and it seemed to have the third sensor as I could easily replay a note without damping it first. Anyone else notice that? Quite a bit more agile and realistic than the latest two sensor Korg sitting next to it.

Re: Roland Fp7 or a RD700GX? [Re: dewster] #1449222
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Yes, new PX-x30 series has 3 sensors keyboards. When you release key to the half of key track you can replay note again.

BTW Nord release new Version 5 library for their Nord Piano. Sound demos are interesting. Combination SN technology with downloadable samplesets would be fantastic feature. But then nobody will not need to buy new DP every 1-2 years and vendors will be unhappy grin


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