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Weber, Carl Maria von #1445648
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The man wrote 4 sonatas, nr.2 is a beautiful piece, according to me, it holds it's stand perfectly against Ludwig's 32, no need to compare numbers, C.M. wrote more operas than van B., I always try to program this lovely 2nd sonata in A-flat, more than 30 min.s of beautiful, and original music, anyone who knows this piece, or has any thoughts about Herr von Weber? BTW, Euryanthe is the most unknown Wagner....


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Re: Weber, Carl Maria von [Re: dolce sfogato] #1445654
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Yes, it is a beautiful and exciting piece. Richter has a couple of recording of it. Just wonderful.

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Yes, and Gilels made a beautiful recording of it, I don't remember if it was live, I don't think so, but he made me try to play it, no-one seems to have been bitten by the same bug, you?


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Re: Weber, Carl Maria von [Re: dolce sfogato] #1445672
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I've always loved the Konzertstucke for piano and orchestra and both clarinet concertos.


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and what about the duo-concertante for piano and clarinet, funny pianopart...


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Re: Weber, Carl Maria von [Re: dolce sfogato] #1445674
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Sorry, I meant No. 3 when I mentioned Richter's recording. I also like No. 2 a lot, particurly by Gilels. Both of them are very worthy pieces; way underplayed.

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I love Weber's music! Piano Concerto No. 2 has a great first movement.


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Originally Posted by DameMyra
I've always loved the Konzertstucke for piano and orchestra and both clarinet concertos.


Same here. Actually, I've enjoyed everything I've heard of his that features a solo wind instrument. The only piano thing of his I actually enjoy playing is the presto from the C major sonata. For some reason the rest of his piano music feels sort of alien to me; I don't know why.

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von Weber didn't get the best start with his composing; he traveled around a lot as a child with his father because his father ran a touring opera company (which is where his love for opera came) and he had teacher after teacher without much consistency. There are some chords of his that puzzle me sometimes, just look at the opening of the Konzertstucke where the piano plays the c dim/e and goes to f minor. Weird!

He did have a good sense of humor and I've laughed out loud at his piano concertos before. And he was quite masterful at writing the clarinet concertos.

Sad fact about Weber: he was gifted with a beautiful singing voice, but after a tragic accident involving the drinking of lithography acid, it was lost forever.

Weber holds a place in the development of Romantic music, most definitely. He was a huge influence on Mendelssohn. Again, referencing the Konzertstucke, it's quite Mendelssohnian. The chromatic C octaves in the second of the the piece are probably what inspired Liszt to include it in his piano concerto - Liszt frequently had the Konzertstucke in his program and I believe it was the piece that was in his program the longest. Some 20-odd years.

Weber was friends with Beethoven, although they got off to a rocky start (scathing review by Weber of Beethoven's 4th I believe) but by the end they had become good friends. Beethoven sent a first edition of his late sonatas to Weber for him to look over. Weber quotes Beethoven in his music. And grudgingly, Beethoven was an admirer of Weber's operas.

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Re: Weber, Carl Maria von [Re: dolce sfogato] #1445757
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I know and love the 2nd sonata. I've "looked" at it a lot but never quite worked on it. I think I eventually will.

I love it.

BTW.....I heard Gilels play it, years ago.

Re: Weber, Carl Maria von [Re: Mark_C] #1445761
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One cannot neglect the Invitation to the Dance, which is a wonderful piece to play, nor the Polacca Brillante.

The Symphonic Metamorphosis of Hindemith are really just transcriptions of some duets, which shows how daring Weber's harmonies could be.

Carl was a cousin to Constanza, who married Mozart.


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Re: Weber, Carl Maria von [Re: BDB] #1445768
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^^ I love the "Invitation" also. ^^


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