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What I heard on that video was a jazzer doing latin music, but I agree, it's definitely not Latin Jazz, as in Chucho Valdés, Gonzalo Reubacaba or Michel Camilo. To me he sounds like a very traditional bebop guy, and reminded me of Benny Green.. not so much stylistically but the fact that he chose to play in that "traditional" way as a contemporary player.
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So what makes it latin music, then? Simply the straight 8th notes? There isn't a single element in there that says "latin". No latin rhythms, no latin melodic vocabulary, no latin pianistic tricks. I think there was a time before I was born when jazz guys called anything with straight 8ths "latin", but damn it's the 21st century now and there's no excuse for that kind of thing.
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Well I am latin, and I can tell you, that tune the improvisation was based on sounded very latin to me... so much so I was tempted to name it "cubanera". I have also heard Matthew play Latin Jazz with an ensemble, and believe me, people were practically dancing by the end of it, even though it was a very formal awards event.
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He is playing 'I should care' at the beginning and then 'Close your eyes' in the 2nd bit. They are jazz standards, but of course you can play any standards in a 'latin' style.
He does break into a montuno style for a few bars which is what makes it sound a bit latin, but apart from that it is pretty straight ahead jazz. He has a good feel though.
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That's a myth that Jarrett made up the whole concert on the spot, he actually had traveresd many of those sketches before. And how would you presume to know that?
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From what I've read Keith Jarrett prepares the solo concerts by actually not practicing for weeks, so that whatever he plays would be new and fresh to him... I wish I could do the same
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Music is almost like sex for some people...
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Music is almost like sex for some people... just a little less messy
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Well I am latin, and I can tell you, that tune the improvisation was based on sounded very latin to me... so much so I was tempted to name it "cubanera". I have also heard Matthew play Latin Jazz with an ensemble, and believe me, people were practically dancing by the end of it, even though it was a very formal awards event.
Interesting. I'm Euro-American, and it sounds very Euro-American to me.
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Many people who worked at the solo venues back in the day heard Jarrett playing many of the same themes during his preconcert warm ups that magically appeared that night. Not that it matters... because it has nothing to do with your music or mine.
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Jazz+ I've never heard that before, you got any concrete evidence?
I've heard his Kohn, Sun Bear, Radiance, Testament solo concerts and none of his improvs sound like a rehash of anything.
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Jazz+, That's just hearsay. There's no way to authenticate a statement like that. For me the real "not that it matters" is that the music is great and inspiring whether or not it's spontaneous or fully preconceived. And I can't speak for you of course, but for me Keith Jarrett's music has a heck of a lot to do with my music. He's consistently been a huge influence on my own development as an artist. I don't think anyone's music exists on an 'island'. All music is rooted to a lot of other music that came before it.
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Dear Etcetra, Thanks for your kind words about my playing! I also wanted to call attention to the pianist on my new album, Julian Pollack. He is presently 21-yrs-old and played at the Blue Note (New York) with his own group as recently as three weeks ago. You can also catch him on tour this month in California in promotion of his new album Infinite Playground. He be playing at Yoshi's ( Oakland, CA), the Mint ( Los Angeles), Dizzy's ( San Diego) among other places. He's a phenomenal musician and I hope you'll check him out: http://www.julianpollackmusic.com/fr_intro.cfm
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My 2 cents on the "Jarrett re-hash" discussion. I have every Jarrett solo concert recording that's been released, and have watched most of the Youtube stuff. While there are plenty of examples of him re-using themes from one concert to another, in every such case he has given the piece a name, so that it could be considered a composition more than an improv. There's one exception that I'm aware of. This theme from the Tokyo '84 encore also appears in Bremen/Lausanne more than 10 years earlier. As far as I know it has no name. Not that it really matters, but I suppose viewers of Tokyo '84 could have assumed that it was completely improvised at that time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPqK1JJOFxw
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In alot of KJ's standards trio songs he often does a short solo intro before the piece. Listen to My Funny Valentine, he almost always does something. Every version I've heard sounds different, and I've heard 6-8 counting bootlegs.
The best one I think is from the Still Live '85 album. And the intro for Stella by Starlight from the Standards Live album is great too.
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Those are two of my very favourite Keith intros along with his intro on Body and Soul from The Cure.
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AJF,
Yea Body and Soul!! I transcribed the piano intro and the actual solo a long time ago. I lost a lot of my work because my computer crashed, but I still have like a page worth of it on my computer.
What I find amazing about Keith is that he seem to be thinking everything in terms of counterpoint.. it's almost as if these individual lines just happen to form chords. It's like a very complicated/advanced version of choral style piano.
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Keith's counterpoint vocabulary must be huge from studying Bach's Well Tempered Clavier.
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custard apple, I heard a story that this lady requested keith to do Ravel's Bolero at a lounge gig.. and Keith was actually able to play thing in it's entirety by ear even though he's never played it before in his life. I am pretty sure I will not be able to do that even if I learned the whole Well Tempered Clavier..
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etcetra - I replied to your helpful PM a while back. It doesn't look like you've read it, so just FYI.
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