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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: theJourney] #1436635 05/14/10 03:35 PM
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Rus73 ...... first off, I must have missed the thread where someone said that
DP's or (Rolands in particular) are better or as good as acoustics.

99.9% of the people on this forum know that a DP can not match an acoustic.

You chose Kawai .... good instruments.

No need to come on here making Rolands sound like a piece of junk.

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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: theJourney] #1436636 05/14/10 03:35 PM
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@theJourney, please don't go this direction. That's defamatory and almost racist.


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This sounds like some kind of threat from the Russian mafia. What, are you going to break our legs if we don't agree with your personal choice of fake electronic piano in an faux-woodgrain Ikea-like case? [/quote]

HA!! That is very good brand new classification for those, who dislike Roland - "Russian mafiosi". You fogot Mucci as German mafiosi or CyberGene as a Bulgarian mafiosi etc.

In general, I have already noticed where is the difference in keyboards between Roland and Kawai. The keyboard of Roland is much more hollow, digital-like and noisy. It is not only my opinion. It is opinion of all mafiosi around the world! 3hearts

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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: mucci] #1436642 05/14/10 03:47 PM
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Some of my best friends own Swedish furniture. confused

Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: Rus73] #1436646 05/14/10 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rus73

Dear Snazzy (if you do not like Rolandian).

I am happy that we both have different opinions. However, I am not talking about your or my opinions. Please, as a handsome, wise, and extremely old pianist, could you be a little bit more carefull when claiming that all of us who prefer Kawai are the very specific, odd and enthusiastic members of clandestine group.
As you remember, I've never said, that you or other victims of effective advertizing are idiots or illegal activists :



Well, Rus...you can call me Snazzy, and you can call me Pete, or you can call me Peter, or you can call me Snazzyplayer...but it just don't make sense to call me Rolandian...I don't call you Ruskawai, or Kawairus. wink

If you prefer a Kawai digital, son, that's fine...and, I certainly don't think (or have said) you are a member of any clandestine group...it is very impolite of you to misquote me.

So, now I can say you are impolite, and a member of an enthusiastic group...and I'd be right. wink

As far as your opinion of Roland pianos? Well, you are entitled to it, like we all are...but, it doesn't make Roland a bad piano because you say it is...it just means that it is a bad piano to you....to many of us, it is not.

Snazzy


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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: snazzyplayer] #1436762 05/14/10 08:39 PM
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Chaps, let's look at this objectively:

(in no particular order)

Roland make great instruments.
Kawai make great instruments.
Yamaha make great instruments.

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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: Kawai James] #1436780 05/14/10 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Chaps, let's look at this objectively:

(in no particular order)

Roland make great instruments.
Kawai make great instruments.
Yamaha make great instruments.

/thread


But, but, but, you dinna get the order right! Heh Heh.

Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: Kawai James] #1436922 05/15/10 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Chaps, let's look at this objectively:

(in no particular order)

Roland make great instruments.
Kawai make great instruments.
Yamaha make great instruments.

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I agree, all of them make instruments...
That is genereal consensus smile

Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: snazzyplayer] #1436940 05/15/10 01:19 AM
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Well, Rus...you can call me Snazzy, and you can call me Pete, or you can call me Peter, or you can call me Snazzyplayer...but it just don't make sense to call me Rolandian...I don't call you Ruskawai, or Kawairus. wink


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Ok, I prefer call you Daddy (I am proud to be your son, Daddy, where have your been for all my life? Where is my alimony?).

About Roland:

Daddy, lets try to do the simple test.Turn off the volume in both Kawai and Roland and try to play both. Then go for real piano and compare. Which one keyboard closer to real piano?

Thats all. Nothing to discuss. However, I've told, that Roland is very good digital device, and many of users prefer good digital devices - it is normal, Daddy.
Thanks.

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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: Rus73] #1436969 05/15/10 03:29 AM
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Let's do yet another test: prevent the hammers from striking the strings in an acoustic piano next to your above no volume test and tell us which of the three was most enjoyable to play. Let us know the results. Be honest.

Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: theJourney] #1436984 05/15/10 04:39 AM
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I'm sure it'll be (most of) the acoustic uprights / grands. I ALWAYS prefer playing on a decent real acoustic instrument, except

- when it's out of tune
- when it's one the cheap budget instruments built for beginners that have no idea of how a good acoustic instrument can sound

It's amazing though how many instruments in homes belong to these two categories.

And here's my statement regarding DP brands:

Currently I prefer my CA63, for budget and playability reasons.
BUT I would also be more than happy if I had a good Roland or Yamaha stage piano / DP at home, like HP-307, CLP-380 (which is a great instrument) and others. They are all more than satisfactory to me. At our church I'm playing (among others) on a very old CLP-950, and you know what: It sounds great through the amplifying system. What I couldn't stand would be a non-weighted syntheziser keyboard, but that's a completely different category.

At some point people have to decide what to purchase. I wouldn't buy anything without trying the major brands first, because then I would always wonder if I really made the right purchase that really fits me. On the other side I would never take "countless hours" to try for months, even years without deciding - this simply doesn't make any sense to me: Am I a professional tester of am I a hobby piano player that just needs a good enough / decent instrument to enjoy?


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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: Rus73] #1436989 05/15/10 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rus73


Ok, I prefer call you Daddy (I am proud to be your son, Daddy, where have your been for all my life? Where is my alimony?).

About Roland:

Daddy, lets try to do the simple test.Turn off the volume in both Kawai and Roland and try to play both. Then go for real piano and compare. Which one keyboard closer to real piano?



Well, then it's best to call me Peter? I'll be Big Peter, and you can be Little Peter (how appropriate). wink

Now, Little Peter, you behave, or Big Peter will take you over his knee, and give Little Peter a spanking, and he won't be able to sit and play his little toy piano. grin

Compare Roland and Kawai digitals to my Steinway B?

How utterly droll! You can't compare apples and watermelons...what dark basement have you been living in? smirk

That's it, Little Peter...you are disowned....I can't abide having a son with the brain of a mushroom. wink

Snazzy



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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: snazzyplayer] #1436996 05/15/10 05:13 AM
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Hey daddy, you're up early! I hope I still can call you daddy... It seems like your own son can easily put you into rage, and certainly I wouldn't like to do so... wink


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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: mucci] #1437001 05/15/10 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mucci
Am I a professional tester of am I a hobby piano player that just needs a good enough / decent instrument to enjoy?



Well, your simple presence on and repeated contributions to this rather odd forum makes this a valid question. After all, pianoworld is all about talking about pianos. If you want to play them, you are much better off logging out and doing so. wink

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Originally Posted by mucci
Hey daddy, you're up early! I hope I still can call you daddy... It seems like your own son can easily put you into rage, and certainly I wouldn't like to do so... wink


Rage? Certainly not, son, I am a happy and content man, and I have the power of music to keep me that way.

One should not open a door, unless one is prepared to deal with what is behind it...is that not true? wink


Snazzy



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I love playing music, but I'm also having fun contributing my (not asked for) advice to others... wink I'm not always near my DP. I hope that's okay for you!


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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: snazzyplayer] #1437008 05/15/10 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by snazzyplayer

One should not open a door, unless one is prepared to deal with what is behind it...is that not true? wink


You're so right (whatever that means in this context).


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Re: HP-307 - huge disappointment [Re: Rus73] #1437023 05/15/10 06:08 AM
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Rus73 ..... seems you've joined this forum for no good reason.

First you bad-mouth a good compnay
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First impression - awful keyboard- hollow, limp, noninformative. I said - stop, it is impossible, this is Roland HP-307!!! If that is "top model" I am afraid asking you - what is the low-end model of Roland?


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It is understandable for kids, but not for pianists.


We do not have to agree on best brand names,
digital or acoustic.

But you should show more respect to your elders.

I say elders, because such jibberish would not come from someone who has lived life for awhile.



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Yes I agree. To join a forum for the single purpose of slagging an instrument off seems very odd to me. I lurked around for ages, learning, understanding the views/preferences of others and the forum etiquette before daring to post!

James has summed it up...there are some great DPs out there and most of us are adult enough to appreciate the strengths of instruments that for any number of reasons we would not actually choose to own.

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