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#1430060 - 05/05/10 02:31 PM Male or female pianist -- Does it matter?  
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Just curious what your experience has been with "male vs. female" solo pianists.

Is one more common than the other? (I'm guessing there are more males that play professionally.)

When people are hiring, do they sometimes prefer one over the other, and if so, why?

Generally speaking, do females tend to have a different style or skill set (or weaknesses and strengths) than males do?

Any other thoughts or things you've noticed?

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#1430140 - 05/05/10 04:32 PM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: Redhead1]  
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Women have pianist envy.

#1430441 - 05/06/10 02:19 AM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: Redhead1]  
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Originally Posted by Redhead1
Just curious what your experience has been with "male vs. female" solo pianists.

Is one more common than the other? (I'm guessing there are more males that play professionally.)

When people are hiring, do they sometimes prefer one over the other, and if so, why?

Generally speaking, do females tend to have a different style or skill set (or weaknesses and strengths) than males do?

Any other thoughts or things you've noticed?

Jenny


This is a slippery slope because it implies making gender stereotypes. I think there is no really useful way to have a men vs women conversation because that neglects the individual. Some of my favourite pianists are women, some are men. I've heard women who play with a strong muscular attack; as well as men who do. I've heard men that play delicately; as well as women who do. I DO however think, in the jazz scene anyway, that there are less female professional pianists. But if you heard them on a recording I doubt you'd be able to tell whether or not you're listening to a man or a woman.


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#1430497 - 05/06/10 08:40 AM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: AJF]  
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Well, is there a difference in how they are viewed by the public? For example, would anyone specifically say, "I want a female (or male) pianist to play at this lounge"? (or whatever)

Is one likely to get more tips than the other?

I think I got the idea for this thread through Robin's "Piano Girl" book. I think there was a line somewhere indicating that there was a "shortage" of female pianists ... or even that she went to auditions specifically for female pianists. I was curious is anyone had any thoughts or experiences about that.

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#1430530 - 05/06/10 09:49 AM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: Redhead1]  
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I don't think there is much of a difference in terms of innate playing ability. But, as far as which I would rather watch actually playing live, that's always going to be the female. :-)

#1431354 - 05/07/10 10:14 AM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: Redhead1]  
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There are noticable style differences between men and women.

Women make good show pianists. Men make better lounge pianists.

As far as classical ones go, I don't care for the way women interpret the music. And jazz is either way. Don't like Marian McPartland, but think Diana Krall plays like a Basie would have played if he had been a woman.(that's a compliment.)


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#1431590 - 05/07/10 03:24 PM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: jjtpiano]  
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Coming from strictly a skill standpoint in modern times, I find the piano is a great equalizer. Male/Female? Skill doesn't seemed to have been granted on the basis of gender. This is a point that I've always greatly admired the piano, how gender seems to have step aside. Author/writers show the same type of gender blindness for genius I have always admired. If there is one thing men might be better at, it's the rejection part of performances/auditions (but this is not an absolute).


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#1431757 - 05/07/10 07:27 PM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: jjtpiano]  
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Originally Posted by jjtpiano
There are noticable style differences between men and women.

Women make good show pianists. Men make better lounge pianists.

As far as classical ones go, I don't care for the way women interpret the music. And jazz is either way. Don't like Marian McPartland, but think Diana Krall plays like a Basie would have played if he had been a woman.(that's a compliment.)


sexist, ignorant rubbish.



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#1431761 - 05/07/10 07:32 PM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: AJF]  
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Originally Posted by AJF
Originally Posted by jjtpiano
There are noticable style differences between men and women.

Women make good show pianists. Men make better lounge pianists.

As far as classical ones go, I don't care for the way women interpret the music. And jazz is either way. Don't like Marian McPartland, but think Diana Krall plays like a Basie would have played if he had been a woman.(that's a compliment.)


sexist, ignorant rubbish.


Thank you, AJF.

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#1432735 - 05/09/10 02:17 AM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: jotur]  
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I love them both smile

I doubt people won't be able to tell which one is male or female just by listening to them. In that respect Fred Hersch's playing is much more "feminine" than Geri Allen.

The only reason jjtpiano say what he says is because that's how jazz is perceived/marketed...Just ask him or most people how many female jazz pianists they can name on top of their head. Diana Krall really isn't a great example of a female jazz pianist.. she might be well known but she is certainly not the best female jazz pianist out there. She even admits that herself. As far as Vocalist-pianists are concerned Dena Derose is much better as a pianist than Diana Krall is.

Here's some female jazz pianists I can think of on top of my head. I can tell you that they play just as well/aggressive as male pianists

Rachel Z
Rene Rosnes
Cecilia Coleman
Patrice Rushen
Toshiko Akiyoshi
Uehara Hiromi
Mary Lou Williams
Dena Derose
Geri Allen

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#1432754 - 05/09/10 03:10 AM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: Redhead1]  
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Wait... what century is it, again?

#1432994 - 05/09/10 01:59 PM Re: Male or female pianist -- Does it matter? [Re: jjtpiano]  
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Originally Posted by jjtpiano

As far as classical ones go, I don't care for the way women interpret the music.


Try listening to Mitsuko Uchida. Incredible. Although I might agree with you about Alicia Delaoucha (sp?).

Hop


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