Piano World Home Page Forums Our Most Popular Forums Pianist Corner Rachmaninoff Prelude 32 no 12... 1 chord too big!

1. I can't play it yet; I'm working on basic technique, including note-reading, before I try the really difficult repertoire. I want to be able to do justice to great music, not just play the notes.

2. Grow up.

Exactly, so don't dictate to me when you're still working on the basics. As for llama, I did not come on here asking how to play it. I said I'm also learning this via synethesia, just like the other guy. Infact I didn't even start this thread you tool. Go back to the start and read from there. Don't just dive in the deep end.

Well then you clearly don't know what technique is. Who are you to be telling people what technique is and how it should be learned when you're not playing advanced-intermediate repetoire? In fact, besides Angelina, none of the people posting about this person's technique (who, by the way, have not even heard him play) are playing particularly advanced repetoire. You all need to stop acting all high and mighty and let people learn how they want; and, if you REALLY want to rag on people about how they learn, at least be an advanced musician yourself. And, if you think you need to read notes to have good technique, you obviously have never heard of Art Tatum. That man alone makes your entire argument completely wrong.

Well then you clearly don't know what technique is. Who are you to be telling people what technique is and how it should be learned when you're not playing advanced-intermediate repetoire? In fact, besides Angelina, none of the people posting about this person's technique (who, by the way, have not even heard him play) are playing particularly advanced repetoire. You all need to stop acting all high and mighty and let people learn how they want; and, if you REALLY want to rag on people about how they learn, at least be an advanced musician yourself. And, if you think you need to read notes to have good technique, you obviously have never heard of Art Tatum. That man alone makes your entire argument completely wrong.

Um. He was 1. blind and 2. a jazz pianist. What a shite comparison.

It wouldn't be a bad comparison if you weren't so stubborn that you deny everyone that disagrees with you and had a clue about what you were talking about.
Since he was blind, he obviously didn't rely on notated music to learn his technique. Regardless of whether he played jazz or not, his technique was easily as good as any other pianist of his day, and even Horowitz had that famous quote that if Tatum played classical, he would be out of a job.

It wouldn't be a bad comparison if you weren't so stubborn that you deny everyone that disagrees with you and had a clue about what you were talking about.
Since he was blind, he obviously didn't rely on notated music to learn his technique. Regardless of whether he played jazz or not, his technique was easily as good as any other pianist of his day, and even Horowitz had that famous quote that if Tatum played classical, he would be out of a job.

This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPeks0H3_s

Do you think playing advanced repertoire or any repertoire improving technique ?

So? I'm fully aware that he was very good; the fact still remains that as a jazz pianist whose playing was mostly improvisatory, not reading sheet music would simply not have been an obstacle to him as it would be to classical pianists. But, yeah, I'm the stubborn one. Sure.

While your question didn't make any sense, I feel like you are trying to refute that that video shows good technique, which is rediculous

His argument was that you need to be able to read sheet music to improve your technique. This proves that you do not. I'm not sure what you are talking about

What are you talking about?

you need to be able to read sheet music to improve your technique.

You use sythesia for reading hanon exercises czerny etc ?

.....If you are seriously attempting to learn and play this Prelude, you should know what key it is in. The key is not "something major or minor;" it's G-sharp minor.

When I taught high school and asked students what piece they played, sometimes I got "Chopin....or Sonatina...or the one in the green book." The most common amswer I got when I asked them what kind of piano they had was "black"....

Your learning Rachmaninov's G-sharp minor prelude from midi :|