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bringing the wrong books: your fix #1418630
04/16/10 05:45 PM
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Most of my students are age 10 and under, many are siblings.
They bring their sister's books instead of their own to lessons, or sometimes old books they've passed. This is a waste of time, obviously, and I'm wondering what other teachers do to help parents and kids to be organized.
My students have music book bags and their names are on the books. I have suggested "lay out your books the night before your lesson" , that sort of thing.
Anything working for you???


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Barb860] #1418635
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I have each assigned piece in my students' books marked with a little sticky note; if they have siblings, each sibling has a different color of sticky note. I tell my students to bring to their lessons only the books with their color of sticky notes in them.

It also helps the little practicers to keep track of what to practice on (never mind that I write their assignments down in their notebooks, too... they never seem to bother with reading those!).

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I have my own copies of most of the method books I use. I also have my own copies of sight reading books, flashcards, and scale books. If they show up without books that I don't have copies of, then we spend the lesson on sightreading, scales, and flashcards.

I also keep a folder of printed out theory sheets (free from Internet). If they forget their theory, we do a worksheet together at the lesson. They get stickers (that lead to rewards) for doing theory at home, but not for doing theory during lesson time.

They generally don't forget their books a second time.

So they keep learning, even without their books. It's just often not as much fun.


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: sarah_elizabeth] #1418659
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Originally Posted by sarah_elizabeth
I have each assigned piece in my students' books marked with a little sticky note; if they have siblings, each sibling has a different color of sticky note. I tell my students to bring to their lessons only the books with their color of sticky notes in them.

It also helps the little practicers to keep track of what to practice on (never mind that I write their assignments down in their notebooks, too... they never seem to bother with reading those!).


Great idea, the colored sticky note thing!


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Lollipop] #1418664
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Originally Posted by Lollipop
I have my own copies of most of the method books I use. I also have my own copies of sight reading books, flashcards, and scale books. If they show up without books that I don't have copies of, then we spend the lesson on sightreading, scales, and flashcards.

I also keep a folder of printed out theory sheets (free from Internet). If they forget their theory, we do a worksheet together at the lesson. They get stickers (that lead to rewards) for doing theory at home, but not for doing theory during lesson time.

They generally don't forget their books a second time.

So they keep learning, even without their books. It's just often not as much fun.


Thanks! Can you please provide the web address for the free theory sheets? (you may have before but I didn't write it down)
This forgetting the book thing drives me crazy right now, especially, as it's recital time and I don't have copies of all the pieces eek


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Barb860] #1418669
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My students get to choose a candy/chocolate at the end of each lesson IF:
1) they bring all their books
2) they complete all assignments
Even if they blame it on their mother or babysitter, I tell them that it's still their responsibility since it's their books. Mixups still happen occasionally, but not as often anymore, because students hate having to miss candy that week.


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Crayola] #1418717
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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Lollipop] #1418828
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Here are a few more websites to locate some downloadable games to print out and have on hand. Some of these I laminate and some I keep in a 3-ring binder marked "Games" with top-loading plastic sleeves.

Music Matters Blog
Jen's Piano Studio Practice Spot .com]

When a student forgets his books - incredibly frustrating at recital preparation time (this happened yesterday with a student) - I tell them what a great opportunity this is to work on some things we usually don't have time for:

[*]ear training, chords and their inversions, accompanying a simple melody with LH I, IV, and V7 chords, sight reading (and if mom or dad is there, we'll give them a surprise concert in 10 or 15 minutes), rhythm games, note reading games, etc

Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: 88keysOK] #1418860
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I too have my own copy of most of the books my kids are learning from. I'm not sure it's a good idea though, as kids know they're covered if they don't bring their books and I have one girl who almost never brings her own book. Not good. Funnily enough it's the families who can't get it together enough to bring the right materials who also can't find time to practice! Perhaps a half hour of theory, aural and scales would fix this problem...hmmm....*tick tick tick*


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Lollipop] #1419403
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Lollipop and 88keys:

Many thanks for the great websites! Wonderful resources I had not known about, thank you!


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Barb860] #1419554
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If the parents and kids will just run off to Walmart, they can buy a nice zippered carrier for their music that keeps everything available in one place and comes to lesson with them. Or an over the shoulder tote bag. They come in all colors and designs. And aren't that expensive. The kids carry them with pride.

It's not the parent's responsibility to remind kids to bring all the music, it's the kids responsonsibility to remember. That may mean that we, as piano teachers, have to train this into our students.

When students have totally forgotten their books (not often overall, and that will be just once per offending student) I put them through their paces of scales and sightreading and lots of rhythm clapping. I make them work so hard at this not wasting one minute of our time that they wish they were wearing "sweat bands" on their foreheads and on the "wrists". They'll feel like they ran cross country when they are done.

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The children can all keep their books in one backpack that becomes the piano backpack. Everyone's books all in the same bag. Problem solved.


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Minniemay] #1419727
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Originally Posted by Minniemay
The children can all keep their books in one backpack that becomes the piano backpack. Everyone's books all in the same bag. Problem solved.


That is exactly what I was going to suggest. I have several sibling sets myself and some of them do this, and we never have a problem.


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Sparkler] #1419844
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The best one is when the student turns up to lesson without books and makes up some excuse about forgetting them. Then when I ask them about how much practice they've done this week they say vaguely that they did everything that was set.

Then I produce the books they left behind at the previous lesson and they know they've been caught out.


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Re: bringing the wrong books: your fix [Re: Amosquito] #1419904
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Most of the time, my students don't forget ALL their books, just one. Often it is the theory book, which they finished early in the week, then set aside, or left on the dining table, or some such. Or it is a book that we didn't need the previous week, and therefore got separated from the others during practice throughout the week.

Those who tend to remember every single book, every single week, are those who never removed the books from the bag all week!


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