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Need some help with a Charles Walter #1400797
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Hey everyone, new to the forum, but I have been reading for quite some time.

I'm looking to upgrade my piano and have really fallen in love with the Charles Walter line. The local dealer has one in a studio in ebony. The dealer quoted me at $6500 with delivery (tax extra) for the piano as his best deal he could give me.

My main question is that are there still different actions that come on the new CWs and do I need to find out which one it is to see if it's worth that price or do they all produced with just a specific action? Also does it seem like a decent deal?

I've been reading and it seems like no one has anything negative to say about the Charles Walters and I really love the sound so I'm pretty much set on this line.

Thanks in advance guys,

Pat

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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: PDMT] #1400989
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Welcome Pat,

Walter uprights come with two options. A genuine German Renner action or a 'Walter" action where the parts are manufactured in China. The keys are the same and both actions use the same German Abel hammers.

I would think the price you are being quoted is for one with a Walter action. A Walter with a genuine Renner action adds about $1,000 to the price.

I have heard from other dealers they are very happy with the Walter actions. I myself have not stocked one.


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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Rod Verhnjak] #1401470
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Awesome! Thanks so much for the response. I'm going to look at the piano again tomorrow and find out what action it is.

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So I ended up getting the 1500 and I have to say I absolutely love it. When should I do the first tuning/get it voiced properly to my room? I have been told 30-60 days by a couple of people but I wasn't too sure.

Thanks again,

Pat

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Congratulations,

I tell my clients between 2 to 4 weeks for the first tuning.

Enjoy


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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Rod Verhnjak] #1405930
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You will have so much fun with your new Charles Walter. They are great pianos. Congratulations and happy playing for years to come.

Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Roxy] #1406028
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Congratulations on your new piano!

I also like the Walters.

As far as tuning goes, I agree with Rod, give it a few weeks to adjust to it's new environment. It would be odd if the instrument arrived with "dreadful" tuning.

As far as voicing is concerned, play it in for about a year. Then it could be tweeked if at all necessary. If you love how it sounds now, don't mess with it.


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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Marty in Minnesota] #1408075
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I found a good technician that I figure will tune it in a couple weeks. In the lower treble notes it has gotten a little dull which I've heard is due to going out of tune a little bit. Aside from that the piano sounds absolutely amazing.

Pat

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I really like walter pianos too, although I have not had the chance to play one. I like the fact that they are handmade as apposed to factory assembled. It's good to see that the price difference between SMP and your offer is so great because I am worried a walter piano would be too expensive for me.

Good luck and enjoy your piano. What model did you get? I hear even the 43'' consoles with the decorative shell are really great. All around, even longer strings than most.

-J


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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Jasper82] #1408159
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I got the 1500 which is essentially the console (43") in a 45" studio size. Same insides and everything but they are cheaper since they aren't encased with all the fancy exterior. They play very well, especially for the size and I was quite impressed with all the little features it had and overall the sound quality was great.

Personally, I like the 1500 Studio look better than the 1520, and it's cheaper, so for me it was a win win.

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Here's a couple pictures of it. If you have the chance, try and play one. You'd be pleasantly surprised.

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Yes, I think the taller pianos look better compared to a smaller console. But it's a toss up for me because some of the console artistry is nice too. It's good to know they have the same 'guts'...



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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Jasper82] #1408234
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What a beautiful piano!!
I love Charles Walter pianos' deep bass and singing treble.
These pianos are sturdy and will last you for a long time.
Congratulation on your fine piano and two thumbs up for Charles Walter.


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That hand rubbed satin finish looks very nice. I'm sure it sounds as good as it looks! Congrats. wink


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You've got GREAT taste! Welcome to the club!



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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: PDMT] #1408734
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Originally Posted by PDMT
Awesome! Thanks so much for the response. I'm going to look at the piano again tomorrow and find out what action it is.


So, does it have the Renner action or the Walter action?


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Re: Need some help with a Charles Walter [Re: Rod Verhnjak] #1408737
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The piano has the Walter action. So you were dead on with you guess.

I love the satin wood as well. Going in I thought I wanted a polished ebony, but I think this color goes great with it. I am very proud to be part of the Walter club!

Once again, thanks to all of you, especially Rod, who if I lived anywhere near, would have bought the piano from you since you're quite knowledgeable!

--Pat

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PDMT... OOPS, I am also the proud owner of a Charles Walter 1500. Love the piano. Had a Lifesaver system installed on mine. Mine has the Renner action, but I had played many of them and quite honestly I don't think the dirfference is noticeable. Renner has great name recognition. You should be quite happy. My tech loves the piano and I have had only a few issues that a good tech easily took care of. 'buff


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I've been thinking about getting a lifesaver system. How much upkeep is involved? I'm in Upstate NY where it does get a little dry in the winter. I think the biggest concern is the humidity change from winter to summer since our summers are so humid.

The tuner should be coming in a week or two from now and I figure I might as well have her tweak a few things in terms of action. I didn't get a chance to play one with the Renner action, but overall I'm very happy with the Walter action.

Pat

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