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Obama and classical music + a question #1395744
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I noticed this article by Alex ross in the Guardian with a funny quip from the President about applause:

Now, if any of you in the audience are newcomers to classical music, and aren't sure when to applaud, don't be nervous. Apparently, President Kennedy had the same problem. He and Jackie held several classical music events here, and more than once he started applauding when he wasn't supposed to. So the social secretary worked out a system where she'd signal him through a crack in the door. Now, fortunately, I have Michelle to tell me when to applaud. The rest of you are on your own."

Ross goes on to tell the history of applause and silence in classicla performance. Interesting read. I apologize if it has already been posted. I know applause was discussed here a few times.

More interesting, to me, is the instrument behind the president. A harpsichord? (or pianoforte?/ I get my old instruments confused). Does the instrument have a history? Does it belong to the White house? Notice the interesting lamp on it..

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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Andromaque] #1395759
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Claps we can believe in.

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The instrument behind the Prez is the "White House Steinway".


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Originally Posted by tuner2
The instrument behind the Prez is the "White House Steinway".


Yep; ugly as sin, if you ask me. smokin Never much liked a modern piano that is basically masquerading as a very old one.


Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.
Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Horowitzian] #1395825
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HEY ITS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!


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Deux Arabesques, Debussy


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Toccata, Ravel




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Skorpius: ?

Tuner, thanks. How old is the piano? Is it a D ?

Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Skorpius] #1395844
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Originally Posted by Skorpius
HEY ITS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!


Chill. Jeez.

Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: wdot] #1395853
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Lol

What? Thats the Whitehouses piano? Since when? I thought it was an american themed piano. White, with eagles carved into the music rack or something.

No comment on Barack, but thats kind of interesting.

Saw an article in the paper for today on Yo Yo Ma. He is coming ot omaha next week. Gosh I really want to go. But he talked about playing for obama.
And having his own seat for his cello on airplanes. smile


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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1395854
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PS

When you said Alex Ross... I thought it was by the guy that Owns A. Cavallo violins here in town. Thats where I bought my beautiful upright bass! Same name.

Coincidence? ha


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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1395858
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T

What? Thats the Whitehouses piano? Since when? I thought it was an american themed piano. White, with eagles carved into the music rack or something.

You may be thinking of an earlier piano Steinway made for the White House. Seems to me I saw a picture of it in a book about Steinways. BDB knows this stuff, perhaps he can elaborate.


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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Skorpius] #1395860
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Originally Posted by Skorpius
HEY ITS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!

+1


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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
But he talked about playing for obama.
And having his own seat for his cello on airplanes. smile



Having a seat for the cello on airplanes is actually the norm. You can't send it with the luggage (especially if it is 270 yr old 2.5 million dollar Stradivarius) even if it were a student instrument. And airlines will no longer allow you the courtesy of standing it in the closet on board.
As for a pres who listens to Yo Yo Ma playing, what is wrong with that??? there should be regular concerts at the White House regardless of its inhabitants..

The Alex Ross I mentioned is the music critic for the New Yorker. He has a terrific blog and a recent book (The rest is Noise) about 20th century classical music.

Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Andromaque] #1395864
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The piano was built in 1938.

Here's Richard Nixon accompanying Pearl Bailey on the White House piano:
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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: jazzyprof] #1395869
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great pic! check out the bench!
P.S. It looks quite kitschy, especially with the gigantic gilded piano legs. The singer's outfit further reinforces the unappealing decor.

P.P.S. Is that a drop and flop that Nixon is about to demonstrate?? laugh

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Originally Posted by wdot
Originally Posted by Skorpius
HEY ITS PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!


Chill. Jeez.



+1

I believe I was quite clear that I was commenting on the piano.


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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Horowitzian] #1395876
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I'm sorry but that piano is hideous... ugh.

Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1395879
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T

When you said Alex Ross...

He's also the classical music critic for The New Yorker, a magazine I occasionally pick up off the news stand. I'm very fond of it, though sometimes I think Ross bluffs a bit. In his reviews of contemporary music, he'll sometimes refer to certain chord structures, rhythmic patterns, etc, which I don't think he could have really grasped on one hearing. Doubtful he had access to a score, and extremely doubtful he has the ear of a Boulez.

And when he once rated Korngold above Elgar, well to each his own -and I know quite a bit of Korngold- but no agreement there.

Edit: I didn't see Andromaque's recent post.


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I see. I agree, Obama should have more Yo Yo Ma concerts. I wasn't saying that was a negative thing, just point out that I just saw in the paper that he did play for him.

Did Nixon really play the piano?


Found the whitehouse's old piano!

IT WAS GOLD! I want this one

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/2211625589_77e701988d.jpg?v=0


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Re: Obama and classical music + a question [Re: Brandon_W_T] #1395899
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Originally Posted by Brandon_W_T
I see. I agree, Obama should have more Yo Yo Ma concerts. I wasn't saying that was a negative thing, just point out that I just saw in the paper that he did play for him.

Did Nixon really play the piano?


Found the whitehouse's old piano!

IT WAS GOLD! I want this one

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/2211625589_77e701988d.jpg?v=0


Good God! That's worse than the other one.



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That thing has "nouveau riche' written all over it..

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