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Hours on piano for adult beginners #1385284
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Hi, I'm Roberto from Siracusa. I begun studying piano in september: I had to leave my guitar (I was goin to pass the intermediate course of conservatory) for a physical problem on my shoulder. So it's a new beginning...and I'm studying three hours a day on Beyer, Longo, Hanon, Bach (little pieces) and scales. How much do you study?


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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: roberto rubino] #1385300
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3 hours a day too (for the piano) + another 2 1/2 hours for other instruments.
The first 6 months to 1 year I practiced only two hours a day though.

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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: ChopinAddict] #1385301
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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: roberto rubino] #1385355
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During weekdays I'm happy if after work and family commitments I'm able to get 1 to 1.5 hours practice in... During the weekend, unfortunately it's a similar pattern.

I envy those able to do 3 hours or more! From both the required mental stamina and having the available time resource.

Do you think that there's some critical watershed, say for example 2 hours, above which you see significant progress (a bit like compound interest) and below which you don't?

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With work and two very young kids, finding time during the non-vampire hours for substantial practice is impossible. So I get up at 3:30 and practice until about 5:45, when I take a shower and wake my wife up to get ready for work. Then I try to get in another half-hour or so, as long as the kids are still asleep. If I'm lucky, I can get in another hour in the evening.

The handful of people who know that I do this just to play the piano think I'm nuts. But the piano is the thing that keeps me sane(ish).

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You're really lucky to practice three hours a day! I do hope you're being careful about the shoulder though.

I've always made a point to practice at least a little in the morning, to make sure I get some in no matter how busy my day is. (Personal) practice the rest of the day is variable.


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Not an adult beginner but didn't get serious about it until about five years ago with a big hiatus in between. Didn't really practice much when I was a kid, played, not practiced, a lot as a teenager, now get in about 3-4 hours a day. Try to get in 2 in the morning before work and 1-2 in the evening afterwards.


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Hi Robert! It's kind of a mixed bag since you're a beginner to the instrument but an already accomplished musician. With most things it seems like 30 minutes every other day will maintain basic knowledge, 30 minutes a day will very slowly gain, an hour a day will gain decently, 2-3 hours will gain quickly. Above that you start to see diminishing returns (I still can't tell if I'm gaining faster at 7 hours compared to 3, other than hand strength/endurance).

I recommend finding pieces beyond your musical skill level, and find many varying styles. No offense to the Chopin master song list but if you only play one composer you'll seriously limit your range of sounds. Choosing pieces that challenge you act as a lever to become better. If you learn a piece and can competently play it within a few days --you're not choosing hard enough pieces.

Split your practice into exercise (scales & dexterity books), recall (1-2 repetitions minimum of every song in your repertoire), learning new songs, and improv or composition time. I try to not let the exercise phase take more than an eighth of my time, as it is easy to burn out doing those daily.

Good luck with the new instrument. Piano isn't nearly as painful physically as guitar (at least for me) so you might find longer sessions than guitar a bit more doable.


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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: moscheles001] #1385737
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Originally Posted by moscheles001
But the piano is the thing that keeps me sane(ish).


ha Same here!! smile



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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: ChopinAddict] #1385823
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Thanks for all your suggestions! You're very kind. I'll try not to be in a hurry now; you know, changing instrument at forty is hard. But I love music, I couldn't survive without prcticing it. Certainly physical problems with guitar have been difficult to manage...after 45 minutes I had great pain, while I can play exercises on my Yamaha for threee hrs without problems. Sometimes I reach 4 hours: I work in a newspaper, so I have strange times to respect and free time. I read carefully all your suggestions.
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Robert, your english is very good.

I've only been playing for 3 months. Some days I only get in 30 minutes, but most days I'm getting 1-3 hours in.

I always play for 10 minutes first thing in the morning. Then I play in 30-45 minute spans many times a day.

Mondays and Thurs I get a good 3-4 hours in. Sunday, Tues and Wed I only get 30-60 minutes. Friday and Sat vary from 1-3 hours. Just depends on what's going on with the family.

I spend time on Hanon exercises (#1 & 6). I'm also working on doing the C scale in 2 octaves. I spend time working on a song figuring out both hands completely by ear. I work on my method book and supplemental song books that have music at the level I'm working.

I also have an easy piano book and at times I'll just open it up and sight read a piece. I do it only with the right hand. I don't do it often just because there is no left hand written in and the song sounds empty. I don't know enough chords to put any of the songs together yet.


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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: GracieCat] #1386245
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Thank you...Once, however, I had a largest vocaboulary. But writing here (and with some chat on Fb) reminds me mor terms, when I was younger. I saw your methods. But I'm lucky to attend still a conservatory (Bellini, in Catania, Sicily), so I try to do, once a week, on monday evening, the proposal of my teacher. In school are very happy, after having passed 4th year of theory and singing, etc..that I'm going on with piano. So Text are suggested to avoid repeating physical problems (I think not HAnon...by the way I accept it). I don't know how works other courses in countries outside Europe. But in the old continent coexist two laws: new and old. Ten years for the old "ordinamento" and twelve for the new one. At the time being both survive


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Wow! I really need to practice more. I usually manage about an hour a day, but you guys have shamed me into practicing more.

Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: ChopinAddict] #1386494
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Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
Originally Posted by moscheles001
But the piano is the thing that keeps me sane(ish).


ha Same here!! smile


I used to think like that, until I realized I haven't socialized in the past year.

4 hours on weeknights
8 hours on weekends.


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Regular like fiber...

M-F an hour and fifteen at lunch
M-F 90 minutes to 2 hours after work

Sat-Sun 2-3 hours.



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Originally Posted by I'll be Bach
Regular like fiber...

M-F an hour and fifteen at lunch
M-F 90 minutes to 2 hours after work

Sat-Sun 2-3 hours.



I envy that you get to practice during your lunch break! I resort to studying scores at during lunch.

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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: nathanbarbey] #1386609
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Originally Posted by nathanbarbey
Good luck with the new instrument. Piano isn't nearly as painful physically as guitar (at least for me) so you might find longer sessions than guitar a bit more doable.


Agreed with the guitar part. I played classical guitar since middle school and I am fairly advanced. When I picked up piano 3 years ago, I noticed it was much easier to pick up piano compare to playing classical guitar pieces. eek


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Originally Posted by Jacky
Originally Posted by nathanbarbey
Good luck with the new instrument. Piano isn't nearly as painful physically as guitar (at least for me) so you might find longer sessions than guitar a bit more doable.


Agreed with the guitar part. I played classical guitar since middle school and I am fairly advanced. When I picked up piano 3 years ago, I noticed it was much easier to pick up piano compare to playing classical guitar pieces. eek


I had pain in my legs when I first started classical guitar, particularly considering I usually play the guitar after the flute, which I play standing, so my legs are already tired and a bit strained. They advised me to buy a guitar support, but they didn't have the best ones here... cursing All I found was a strap with a hook that somehow makes the guitar lighter. It did help though I think, although somebody told me he used the strap for many years and he got arthritis in his neck from it.... frown

Regardless, I am putting together my first guitar CD because I have promised it to some people... smile



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Re: Hours on piano for adult beginners [Re: ChopinAddict] #1386706
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I have a question for those practicing 2+ hours a day. Are you sitting at the keyboard for a straight 2+ hours, or are you playing maybe 15 - 20 minutes, taking a break, playing another 20 minutes and so on? I find 30 minutes is as long as I can sit. I take a 10 minute break and I'm ready to go again. Just curious.


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