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I played this piano today!!!!.... #137493
08/16/01 01:09 AM
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I went to Dan Harteau's (my technician) home today and played the most glorious 1932 Steinway D. Dan has lovingly restored this magnificent instrument to all it's glory. He has included the "Full Stanwood" action upgrade---it sounds & plays like a dream!!

The funny thing is, now that he is done restoring this piano, he is selling it to fund his next project...ain't life "GRAND"!!

I thought you all might be interested in seeing this instrument. If anyone wants to know more about it, I'd be glad to answer any questions. No, I'm not an agent for Dan, just an enthusiast-----sure wish I could afford it...


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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137494
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Just looking at it Matt, he has done an outstanding job! His refinishing skills are superb.


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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137495
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that just became my desktop wallpaper...=] hope u don't mind...

Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137496
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A peek "under the hood", and more...
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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137497
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Mat: Ohmumgawd! I am salivating!

That piano is luscious looking. I wish I could be there to have a few intimate moments alone with it, if you know what I mean.

Nudge Nudge Wink Wink

Great photography Great room Great hardwood floors with great rugs. Send me the address, I'll be right over.

Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137498
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Mat,

Thank you *much* for posting these. These photos are keepers for me. I certainly would like to know more... would you mind elaborating on what was done for the Stanwood mod.?

Cheers
Simon

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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137499
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Mat D:

You are the envy of us all, and we will envy (mortal sin, twice!) the person who is going to own that piano.

Thank you for sharing those wonderful photographs with us.

Regards,

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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137500
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Hi Simon,

Rather than trying to explain in my own words, I have posted a link to David Stanwoods homepage.

I will tell you that Dan Harteau (local, Detroit area liscenced "Stanwood" technician--my tech) has done the same work on my mason & Hamlin BB and I couldn't be happier.

My piano has Renner action, but for some reason it always felt heavy an cumbersome. I hired Dan to do this upgrade (a scientific approach to action regulation--putting it simply) and the action on my M&H BB is just great. The system includes installing 'helper-springs' for repitition (often standard equipment on German pianos such as Bosendorfer), but the beauty of the system is, the 'touchweight' can be adjusted with a simple screw adjustment in less than an hour---the entire piano! I am now able to play at all dynamic levels with total control--especially pp passagework is more consistent and controllable.
When Dan did the work on my piano (1 year ago) David Stanwood happened to be in town for a lecture and visited my house to see how the work was coming along. He was a gentleman and the 'ultimate' "Piano Guy"!!!
He really knows his stuff--as you will soon learn from his website...

I hope that helps.

Mat D.
here is the link:
STANWOOD link

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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137501
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Is there such a thing as piano pornography?

Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137502
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mat -

Great pictures!! Thanks for posting them - the finish is very nice and I like the poly clearcoat on the plate. I assume that is what he used.

Thanks again.


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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137503
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Hi Rich,

I'm not sure of the details on the finish or plate, but i could find out. It appears to me that the finish is lacquer (not poly) & has a medium gloss finish. The finish has great 'depth' which comes from many coats and lots of hand rubbing---also because it is lacquer as opposed to polyester--that's my guess. What really impressed me was the finish of the underside---every little detail was finished and lacquered----that's why I included one shot of the underside.

The pictures don't really do it justice.

Mat D.

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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137504
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Mat, thanks for the information in response to my question, it is helpful. I'm afraid though that I did not express myself clearly. I did have some awareness of the Stanwood system, and was merely curious about the specific changes to the action done during the upgrade, as I understand that the system is customized to the piano it is being installed on.

Anyway, I had been interested in the Stanwood system for some time now, even before I got my new Petrof III. And here is something else I totally missed the boat on. You see, I had written to David (Stanwood) and he replied to me yesterday. He said that since there are no licensed installers in Toronto where I am, he was referring me to two techs elsewhere - Serge Harel in Quebec, and in Detroit, none other than Dan Harteau.

shocked I don't know why I didn't make the connection when I first saw your post! I guess thing get a little hazy for me when I post from work sometimes.

Thanks again and cheers,
Simon

Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137505
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Simon, It is a small world indeed!

If you decide to talk to Serge Harel, I can tell you that he has an excellent reputation---Dan Harteau first told me about him last year when I was looking at a piano in Montreal...Serge was the tech that helped me on that one. I didn't end up buying the piano, but Serge Harel was very professional and is known to be one of Canada's best techs.

I wish I could be more specific about my upgrade, but I had 2 upgrades done at once...new hammers & the Full Stanwood upgrade. I had Steinway D hammers intalled on my Mason & Hamlin BB because the tone was getting quite bright & the existing hammers had been 'overvoiced' already. I decided to go for the hammers because it made sense to do it all at once.

The thing that was most revealing was "weighing-Off" of the hammers. The hammer weight has everything to do with tone. Dan brought the action back to my home (after running all the Stanwood 'numbers' on my particular piano)--the hammers shanks had little binder clips on them to the weight that was specified by the Stanwood software. After installing the action, Dan moved, removed, added etc. binder clips, testing the tone in each octave of the piano. As the tone responded to his moving or adding clips to the hammer shanks, we linstened intently till the tone would 'sing' the best----that was the correct weight for that particular hammer. We did this throughout the entire piano. When he was done, he took the action back to his workbench and permanently applied whatever addition (or subtracted) weight each hammer needed. The Stanwood "number" from the software got us in the ballpark initially, then we applied the "oldschool" approach of listening (what a concept!!!)--then we re-crunched the "numbers" to apply evenly across the keyboard scale & there you have it!!

The "Full" Stanwood has the 'helper repetition springs' included. These are extremely useful because like I sais in my previous post, Dan can re-do the touch-weight of the entire keyboard in less than an hour using the screw adjustments on the springs.

I hope that was relatively clear--it's difficult to put into words in a clear way.

Mat D.

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Re: I played this piano today!!!!.... #137506
08/17/01 11:45 PM
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Wow, Mat, that was an even better description of the process than I've gotten from anyone. What he's doing back at his shop is making the subtle weight adjustments permanent. I understand everything else he's doing too and Stanwood's is a distinct approach.

Weird isn't it? David STANWOOD invented his system for adjusting touch weight and Darrel Fandrich resides in STANWOOD, Washington.


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