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Hi,

It would be great to hear some comments about the new SuperNatural piano sound by Roland. So if you have tried it yet, share your experinces with us. Comments about the HP300-series are also welcome of course

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If it helps, here's a clip on the HP307 which has the SuperNatural piano:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2lsQD0BwA

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Better yet, someone please (please!) upload a DPBSD MP3!

I'm SuperNaturally interested in that one!

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I have an HP-307 on order and it is supposed to arrive by the end of the month (we'll see), but if I can figure out how to capture the data for your DPBSD project, then I'll surely give it a shot!

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Originally Posted by sullivang
If it helps, here's a clip on the HP307 which has the SuperNatural piano:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2lsQD0BwA

Greg.

In that video, the hoarse-voiced gal (how many packs did she smoke that day?) says something about the key action being a "triple strike mechanism" which to me is just confusing terminology, as triple strike generally means 3 velocity layers. And saying it uses V-Piano technology just makes me scratch my head when they are discussing a sampler. Wah?

I also heard her say "no looping"! Bring it on...

The harpsichord decay sounded really looped and fake. The pianos sound nice though.

Gotta hand it to Roland, they can actually talk the talk.

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Yeah, I noticed the triple-strike comment. I assumed they meant "triple sensor". I too like the piano sound a lot - very expressive, going from warm and mellow for soft playing to thin and metallic for forte playing.

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Does anyone have a cross section of the PHA-III action we can compare to that of the latest from Yamaha and Kawai?

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I have the HP-307 at home, I'll try to record and upload DPBSD later this week, unless someone will do it earlier.

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Originally Posted by zaba19
I have the HP-307 at home, I'll try to record and upload DPBSD later this week, unless someone will do it earlier.

Great - thanks!

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I agree, Dewster needs to test this thing against Roland's pretty bold claims.

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rd-700gx supernatural piano sound - anyone received it? Can you shoot us a review? thanks,
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Originally Posted by emeraldsoul
rd-700gx supernatural piano sound - anyone received it? Can you shoot us a review?



Audio demos too!

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Isn't shipping until March 5 now. My Sweetwater dude called me this afternoon with the update.

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A few days ago I got a chance to play Roland HP-307 that has the supernatural piano sound, and I must tell you that I was very pleased. It is a big improvement from my RD-700SX.


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Probably triple strike refers to keyboard mechanism - greater repetition.


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I've just played it and compared it with the V-Piano. I got the impression that while the V-Piano feels much better and you can control the sound better and be more expressive, the HP 307's sound is richer and a little better. However, I still favor the V-Piano over the 307, it's just more fun to play.

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Originally Posted by Masume
I've just played it and compared it with the V-Piano. I got the impression that while the V-Piano feels much better...


Just curious what you mean by "feels much better" since I understand both to have the same PHAIII keyboard? [Not that I can afford v-piano, but it looks like a neat product.]


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Well I own the an RD-700GX and though it's doesn't have the new PHAIII keyboard, it does have the PHAII which was/is remarkably impressive compared to what else is out, especially vs. the CP300/S-90ES/XS.
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I've just played it and compared it with the V-Piano. I got the impression that while the V-Piano feels much better and you can control the sound better and be more expressive, the HP 307's sound is richer and a little better. However, I still favor the V-Piano over the 307, it's just more fun to play.

Yeah after I bought my RD-700GX last year, I went and played on the V-Piano for about an hour and a half at a local music store. I was immediately impressed with the touch and responsiveness for an electric piano. Roland has done a bang up job on it's line of digital pianos. I'm not sure the V-Piano is worth its steep price though. It should retail for $2499. They'd sell out of them for that price.

BTW, anyone know if Roland will offer the same tri-pedal set, that comes with the V-Piano, for the RD-700GX??


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Originally Posted by JMMEC

Just curious what you mean by "feels much better" since I understand both to have the same PHAIII keyboard? [Not that I can afford v-piano, but it looks like a neat product.]

I didn't mean the actual tactile response of the keyboard, I couldn't even tell the difference between PHA II and PHA III when i compared the two, I meant the V-Pianos responsiveness. How small difference in touch result in small difference in tone. I find it a bit hard to discribe. I would maybe say you're more connected to the piano and to the music it produces (I know, that sentence is nonsense, but maybe you get what I mean). You can just be more expressive and thus playing it feels different from playing other digital pianos.

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I agree. There is a big difference in the sense-response-sense feedback loop when playing the VPiano compared side-by-side playing the HP-307, despite both having the PHA-III keybed. Much less difference then when I play my Korg SP-200 with its on board sounds compared to connecting it to PianoTeq, but the difference is there. Also, for me, the HP-307 feels more "hollow": as if the keyboard were mounted on a folded cardboard packing box compared to the more solid feeling of the VPiano on a good stand.

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