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Saint-Saens piano concerto no.2 in g minor #1368786
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This will be my second concerto to learn and perform and I am looking at the first movement. Any thoughts on level of difficulty/difficult passages or tips would be very helpful. I have until the end of June to learn it. Any advice from those who have performed it would be very helpful!

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Re: Saint-Saens piano concerto no.2 in g minor [Re: ilikepiano] #1369431
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Welcome to the site....I saw this post yesterday and didn't reply because I don't know the concerto that well, but since nobody else is replying.....

I like the concerto a lot and "almost" picked it as my second one to perform. (There wound up not being any second one.) smile

As with many pieces, IMO it's very hard to say exactly what's the level of difficulty because it depends so much on what we expect from a performance of it -- i.e. what we're trying to do with it. IMO this concerto is at the highest level of difficulty, especially the scherzo and the last movement, unless we're not necessarily aiming to play them with the spark and fire that I think they require.

P.S. If you are able to learn the piece by June, you're good enough that you don't really need to ask us about level of difficulty or much else. ha

Let us know how it goes!

Re: Saint-Saens piano concerto no.2 in g minor [Re: Mark_C] #1369490
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I agree with the observation that if you're skilled enough to pull this off by June the question of relative difficulty is moot. As for "tips" or "advice", I think you would have to be more specific, otherwise one could wander all over the place with tidbits of potentially useless information.

In many ways, the G minor is a stunning concerto, beautifully exploiting the sonorities of the piano. The first movement is the only one I had ever read through with the intention of eventually working on it, and it certainly lies well in the hand, if I remember correctly.

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IMO the "hardest" part is the scherzo.

Let's put it this way......It is often said to have similarities to Chopin's 4th Scherzo, and indeed it does, including the kinds of difficulties. Taking it from there.....

Many people consider the 4th scherzo the hardest of Chopin's scherzi. Having played them all, I agree. It's a piece that is best left to the greatest technical wizards, as I learned by performing it myself. smile

And the Saint-Saens is perhaps even harder, because it goes a good bit faster.

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Re: Saint-Saens piano concerto no.2 in g minor [Re: Mark_C] #1369526
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
IMO the "hardest" part is the scherzo.

Let's put it this way......It is often said to have similarities to Chopin's 4th Scherzo, and indeed it does, including the kinds of difficulties. Taking it from there.....


I've only played the 4th concerto, but I've read through the 2nd often enough to agree with Mark. And the third movement pretty much plays itself. (Sounds harder than it is!)

Not surprising that the scherzo has similarities to the Chopin. It was reportedly a favourite of Saint-Saens. I believe the young Rubinstein heard him play it, but wrote in 'My Young Years' (?) that it went much too fast! So that might explain a lot...


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Re: Saint-Saens piano concerto no.2 in g minor [Re: argerichfan] #1369531
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I think it's known that Saint-Saens was consciously using figures from the Chopin scherzo in that movement.


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