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"Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? #1356085
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Hi all!

I'm just starting in the piano world and I have been reading about digital pianos since 1 week ago. Finally, I have found this great forum from where I think that I learning a lot.

I'm in Europe and I want to buy my own piano and my budget is tight. So, I'm thinking about buying a Thomann piano but apparently the people is scare about them because they are made in China. I couldn't find any descriptions of any model of a Thomann digital piano from someone who has tried it.

So, I'm looking for stories about these pianos, any model, opinions, etc. I learned that Thomann doesn't make these pianos , but I also learned that they are a really prestigious company in Europe that probably don't want to put their brand in any [censored].

I hope you can help me giving me different opinions about this.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: Sarasa] #1356238
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Don't worry about where something is made. They can build very high quality in China or just in Europe or the US. What matters more is the management's commitment to quality control and the design the engineers come up with and if you will be able to get parts and service years from now.

What's your budget? Here in the US decent playable digital pianos start at $400 USD. Typically in Europe you pay the about same price in Euros, as if the exchange were one to one.

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Before I have started to read about pianos, digital pianos, keywords...my budget was 100 euros, now I know that I cannot spend less than 400 euros if I want to be serious with this.

So, my budget is 400. These are the prices that I found and the DP that I´m taking into account (may be you can recommend me another one).

1. Hemingway DP-201 AT digital piano (333 euros)
http://www.thomann.de/be/hemingway_dp_201_at_b_stock.htm
2. Thomann SP-5100 Stage Piano (345 euros)
http://www.thomann.de/be/thomann_sp5100.htm
3. THOMANN SP-5500 (398 euros)
http://www.thomann.de/be/thomann_sp5500.htm
4. THOMANN DP-30 RW/C (398 euros)
http://www.thomann.de/be/thomann_dp30_rwc.htm
5. Casio CDP-100 (returned dispatch which means that someone return after 30 days as maximun) (415 euros)

Well, I hope you can give me some advices.

Regards!

Those prices are in Belgium that is where I am right now.

Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: Sarasa] #1356263
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I have not played any of the thomann branded digital pianos but I imagine they might be the same as the Suzuki or Williams pianos which are much discussed on this forum.

If you could go to the thomann store in germany to try them, that would be safest. Thomann will let you return defective goods for free but you will have to pay to return the piano if you just don't like it.

You might also be able to buy a store model from a local Belgian retailer at a good discount.

You might also want to check sites such as marktplaats.

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Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: theJourney] #1356858
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Thanks for your advices.

Apparently there is nobody who has tried one of these digitals pianos...

Does someone know if there is a community like this one in Europe?

Regards!

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Well...I think this thread is over, apparently nobody has one of these pianos and nobody has a friend who could know about it.

Thanks a lot for the contributions.

Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: Sarasa] #1358215
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I can't speak to that particular brand, but in comparing some of the "lower end" brands and product lines in my search for a DP, I was universally unimpressed with the off-name brand pianos. In fairness, my budget was a bit higher than yours, so I was playing some decent quality DPs. If my budget was where yours is, I wouldn't be comparing them to $1K+ boards, I'd be comparing them to the lower-tier Yamahas and Casios. At that point, they may be a bit more comparable. The truth is, you've really got to literally get your hands on them for yourself in order to get a good feel for how they sound and play regardless of what your budget is.

Later,

K

Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: Sarasa] #1358297
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Originally Posted by Sarasa
Thanks for your advices.
Does someone know if there is a community like this one in Europe?


There is a german musician board "Musikerboard" with a channel for digital pianos: http://www.musiker-board.de/vb/f12-digitalpianos/

It is in german, but i'd suspect you would be helped if you started an english thread. One thing I can tell you in advance: almost everyone there will advise you against buying a DP with Thomann or Hemingway brand. Generally folks aiming at a DP well below 1.000€ are pointed to Casio, above that line it is one of the (other) big players: Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, Korg

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Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the comments.

I have opened a new thread. As I am temporally in Brussels and in Europe also...someone told me that a better idea is to buy an stage piano. So, I found two options and I have open a thread about it.

Do you know where I can get the best price for Korg stage pianos in Europe, in particular in Belgium? Thomann.be?

Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: Sarasa] #1358530
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Yes, Thomann has very good prices IMO, compared to other European stores.
You might find even better prices at a local shop tho.

You should probably try the Korg SP-170. A brand new stage piano, which is quite cheap.
I haven't tried that action yet, tho, so I can't speak for that.
http://www.thomann.de/be/korg_sp_170_bk.htm
Like I said, it's worth trying out for yourself.

Re: "Thomann Pianos" Angel or Demon? [Re: Vid_w] #1359172
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Hi!

Most Thoman Pianos are manufactured by Medeli.
http://www.medeli.com.hk/

If you look to musicstores brand "Fame" or to Musikhaus Kirsteins Brand "Cantabile" then you see that they have the same design and if you read and compare the manuals, it is clear that tese are identical devices. (There might be rare exceptions,though)

I dont know the brand "Williams" or other brands that are discussed here, but compare the design and you should see if this are re-branded Medeli models too.

Dont forget to take the new Casio models into comparison.
After all what I have read they have much improved keyboards (the old series where not too bad, too) and seriously try to become a big competitor in this market.

Best,

Peter

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