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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
Rille Stark #1350987 01/16/10 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Stark
Review from The Keyboard Corner by David Bryce :

Yamaha CP1 first impressions



Just a bump, and comment that it is worth reading this thread over at the Keyboard Forum. (Even though one poster's response to a suggestion there, to check out our forum here, was "pass".

Still, I'm learning a bit "over there . . . "! (Especially relevant, IMHO, are the opinions expressed by those who have played it).

Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Yamaha CP Series Pianos Winter NAMM 2010 Demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVhi8mMu9iE

Interesting that he said that Stage NW stands for Stage New Wood. (Whatever the heck that means?)

Anyway, better sound quality on this demo, but still using video mics. Yikes. Connect the audio out to the camera, already!

Time to read the manual.

Lawrence

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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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I haven't been this excited about an instrument in a long time. The sounds are amazing, the top-notch Yamaha action is there (if the NW keys of the CLP380 are any indication) and the suckers are chock full of features.

Some of you may recall my "dilemma" from this thread a few months back: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1224271/Re:%20CP300%20vs.%20RD700GX.html

Basically, I decided to wait at that time because I had this hunch that Yamaha would release a response to the RD700GX, and boy have they ever. What blows me away is that it sounds very realistic. It's too bad that they don't include some of the upright pianos. I grew up playing a U3, so either that or a U5 would've been nice. Nevertheless, it looks like I'm going to pull the trigger on one of these guys.

One question that I have that's of some concern is that I'd like the wider variety of sounds coming out of the CP5, but notice that there are only two foot switch connections, so it looks like I'd have to go with two out of three of the standard piano pedals. Now, being from a classical piano background, this is somewhat disconcerting and I'd rather not have to pay another $2.5k for just this feature or to have to reassign one to the other depending on what I'm playing.

My question is this: Can a separate foot switch be connected to one of the other jacks on the CP-5 to assign it to one of the missing piano pedals? It looks like the possibilities are the foot controller inputs, MIDI, and maybe USB.

I hope I don't have to wait another six weeks to find this out, though I'm just waiting to get my hands on even a CP-1 at my local Yamaha dealer to try out.


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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
Melodialworks Music #1351579 01/17/10 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Melodialworks Music
Just a bump, and comment that it is worth reading this thread over at the Keyboard Forum. (Even though one poster's response to a suggestion there, to check out our forum here, was "pass".

Read most of it and "pass" is my recommendation.

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But the sounds....that's where I got lost. I got so lost, that I didn't fall into my usual analysis thing...didn't start picking apart the sound design - I just played...and played. It's just the best when that happens....

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I'm not a big fan of FM DX samples -the don't have the same life as a DX7. This did. It was a ton of fun to play - especially stacked on top of the CFIIIS.

I just can't believe there isn't something negative to say about the CP1. I mean, it wasn't handed down from on high for frick's sake, and most PC samplers could probably kick its ass all the way around the block, so why the 100% positively magical review? I know, money talks...

I just want something with a realistic, non-looped sustain. I don't need ponies and unicorns and god shining down on me every waking moment like they seem to be promising. Talk about oversell...

The problem with this whole thing is that the DP industry has set the bar for success so low I can't believe anyone anymore. There are too many people all too willing to assist in catapulting the hype into the stratosphere in exchange for a couple of bucks and sullying their good name.

Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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The problem with this whole thing is that the DP industry has set the bar for success so low I can't believe anyone anymore. There are too many people all too willing to assist in catapulting the hype into the stratosphere in exchange for a couple of bucks and sullying their good name.


Do you feel that someone is being paid to praise the CP-!? If so, who is it, please?

I, for one, would like to know who it is, as that seems a bit unfair, wouldn't you agree, friend Dewster?

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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Originally Posted by snazzyplayer
Do you feel that someone is being paid to praise the CP-!? If so, who is it, please?

I, for one, would like to know who it is, as that seems a bit unfair, wouldn't you agree, friend Dewster?

No individual can be singled out if they are all playing the game.

It's like having every new Hollywood movie get 5 stars. I'm just sick of the endless hype emanating from NAMM.

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Making new friends over at Keyboard forums I see ha


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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Originally Posted by snazzyplayer
Do you feel that someone is being paid to praise the CP-!? If so, who is it, please?

I, for one, would like to know who it is, as that seems a bit unfair, wouldn't you agree, friend Dewster?

No individual can be singled out if they are all playing the game.


Can you be a little more vague? wink


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Originally Posted by Dr Popper
Making new friends over at Keyboard forums I see ha

Just spreading the love...

Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Originally Posted by dewster

I just can't believe there isn't something negative to say about the CP1. I mean, it wasn't handed down from on high for frick's sake, and most PC samplers could probably kick its ass all the way around the block, so why the 100% positively magical review? I know, money talks...

I just want something with a realistic, non-looped sustain. I don't need ponies and unicorns and god shining down on me every waking moment like they seem to be promising. Talk about oversell...

The problem with this whole thing is that the DP industry has set the bar for success so low I can't believe anyone anymore. There are too many people all too willing to assist in catapulting the hype into the stratosphere in exchange for a couple of bucks and sullying their good name.


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j/k lol

I'm really liking these new keyboards from what I'm seeing!
I hope the action and the sounds are as sweet as they make it out to be.
But, I agree with dewster, you just can't believe what you hear anymore, it's usually biased.

Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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CP 5 demo by none other then BAD MISTER himself mad



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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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So the CP5 was being exhibited?
Very nice. Great playing, great product.

I like the look of those mixer knobs towards the left - setting different levels for mic, line-in, USB audio, etc.

That Rhodes MkII sounded pretty crunchy too!

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Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha!
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Uh-oh!

"Over there" the CP honeymoon seems to be over - the long knives are coming out and they're starting to get their hate on:

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbth..._Yamaha_CP1_first_impression#Post2154654

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbth..._Yamaha_CP1_first_impression#Post2154695


I find the technical vagueness of their reviews to be very frustrating. e.g.:

"I'm always a little hesitant to try and put into words what I'm hearing but I didn't dig it."

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The acoustic piano on the CP-5 is very nice. I think coupled with that beautiful new wooden action, this is going to a great stage piano.

It doesn't sound any less robust than the CP-1.

I like the easily accessible knobs, and that great screen...now, I wonder what the organ sounds are like the in the CP-5?

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Uh-oh!

"Over there" the CP honeymoon seems to be over - the long knives are coming out and they're starting to get their hate on

I believe you misread the 2nd quote. He wrote "beyond" which is positive. I guess you misread it as "below"?

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Originally Posted by madshi
I believe you misread the 2nd quote. He wrote "beyond" which is positive. I guess you misread it as "below"?

Oops! Thanks! I had my skim knob set too high...

The OP reviewer sure changed his tune though.

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Originally Posted by Dr Popper
CP 5 demo by none other then BAD MISTER himself


I thought it was a rather uninspiring demo. He didn't seem very comfortable with the instrument. Where's Bert? We need Bert! We need excitement, energy!

What's the actual point of posting a video recorded using the video cameras mic? I don't get it? How does this piano actually sound? No clue, based on this (and many other) videos.

Pa-leze, SOMEONE record from the audio outputs. Otherwise, its like teasing from a cheap hooker. (Not sure if I would want to dabble there, or not . . . )

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