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Hi guys, let me quickly introduce myself:
Going on 30, music professional, working for Yamaha Music Europe, playing a damn lot of music in different setting: solo, funk, soul, classical,...
Welcome to Piano World. Mostly a great bunch here, but the odd member drinks far too much coffee! To avoid confusion, we should call you YAMAHA Moose! Lawrence
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Welcome to the forum Moose! Soul and funk you say? Good stuff - a man after my own heart!  Cheers, James x
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Crap. I hope I didn't scare him off by being too inquisitive about the products his company makes.
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Crap. I hope I didn't scare him off by being too inquisitive about the products his company makes. Doubt it. He'll probably ignore your questions if he either can't on won't answer! Or he'll search for all posts by "dewster", and run, Forest, run . . ! I did try to warn him about a coffee swilling maniac on the forum . . . I'm hoping Yamaha will release the full manual (in English) when Winter NAMM 2010 becomes a reality, and some excellent demos of the AP, with slow, long notes, high quality, and no one yapping over the top. Now I should wake up, 'cause I'm dreaming, at least about the demos part.
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Dewster, you're the least scary guy here...we all know you're an old softy.
Sold my Avant Grand yesterday...made a little bit on it actually...the guy, Lowell, who would only play acoustics (he was the guy we blindfolded) bought it...I bought a pair of Bose L1 speaker systems so I can play in stereo....gonna start giggin' again...I'm looking forward to the CP-5 (or CP-1) and how it compares to the CP-300.
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Sold my Avant Grand yesterday Has anyone checked the temperature in heck lately?
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Sold my Avant Grand yesterday Has anyone checked the temperature in heck lately? I'll see if I can set up a séance to contact my former mother-in-law...she'd know. Snazzy
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Sold my Avant Grand yesterday...
OK. Now I'm really, really confused. Is it backwards day? Has the world ended? (Never saw that one coming!)
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Sold my Avant Grand yesterday...made a little bit on it actually... Wow, now that's what I call a play-test! Cheers, James x
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James, I got the Avant Grand for roughly dealer cost...we sold several on my demos alone...Lowell made me an offer I couldn't refuse...he's happy, and so am I.
I'm going to go for the nest iteration of the Avant Grand...remember, it is the beginning of a series.
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Crap. I hope I didn't scare him off by being too inquisitive about the products his company makes. Nah, you'll have to try harder to scare me off... Can't answer your questions though... I said I was working for Yamaha Music, but not for Stage Piano's, so I know just as many details about the new CP-line as you do (and probably even less :-) ) Only advice I can give you: wait forming your opinion until you've played them all. A comparison between CP1/5/50 will answer your questions easily. I know I've made my choice by comparing them. CP1 it is.
Employed by Yamaha Europe. Same deal, all my posts are personal opinions, not company opinions!
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Yeah CP1 is great but the CP5 is more versatile .... CP50 is ....well I dunno what it is really ...
"I'm still an idiot and I'm still in love" - Blue Sofa - The Plugz 1981 (Tito Larriva)
Disclosure : I am professionally associated with Arturia but my sentiments are my own only.
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I know I've made my choice by comparing them. CP1 it is. Can you comment on which advantages of the CP1 made you favor the CP1 over the CP5? I'm sure most/all of us would appreciate a detailed description of your impressions. Thanks! 
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CP50 is ....well I dunno what it is really ...
Affordable?
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Yeah its more .... " Affordable" 
"I'm still an idiot and I'm still in love" - Blue Sofa - The Plugz 1981 (Tito Larriva)
Disclosure : I am professionally associated with Arturia but my sentiments are my own only.
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Nah, you'll have to try harder to scare me off... Here goes nothing ;-) Can't answer your questions though... I said I was working for Yamaha Music, but not for Stage Piano's, so I know just as many details about the new CP-line as you do (and probably even less :-) )
Only advice I can give you: wait forming your opinion until you've played them all. A comparison between CP1/5/50 will answer your questions easily.
I know I've made my choice by comparing them. CP1 it is. I'm not trying to beat you up - I certainly would appreciate any information you can give, and I understand how working for a large, publicly traded company can tie your hands. But all you've done so far is tease us, which I feel is rather cruel. Your post is like Roger Ebert giving a thumbs up/down with no review attached - what are we to make of it? And you work for Yamaha which confuses things even more. OK, here's the thing. Many of us here are mainly interested in the CFIII patch (and to a lesser degree the S6 patch). All the other EPs, sounds, preamps, effects, wooden/plastic keys, vacuum fluorescent displays, glowing logos, etc. are just icing on the cake. The CFIII appears on all models in this line. Since you have compared them, can you at least tell us if the CFIII patch is the same on all three? I don't think that is asking too much. I mean, revealing that shouldn't cause Yamaha's stock to go into the toilet. And I'm not a competitor asking this, I'm a fairly loyal customer who regularly recommends Yamaha keyboards to piano students. Shouldn't that count for something?
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My Yamaha clinician buddy in Canada, Ian, had to sign an NDA agreement (non-disclosure) so I imagine Moose might be in the same situation.
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There seem to be some short demo songs up here: http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/stage_pianos/cp1/Not sure if they were up before already, just noticed them the first time. *Damn*, I like that DX7 sound (last one in the list)! I'd really like to know how much better the SCM DX7 sounds of the CP1 are, compared to the sampled-only DX7 sounds in the CP50. Anybody going to NAMM? Could you please compare the DX7 sounds of CP1 vs. CP50? That should be a good indication of how well SCM works.
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*Damn*, I like that DX7 sound (last one in the list)! I'd really like to know how much better the SCM DX7 sounds of the CP1 are, compared to the sampled-only DX7 sounds in the CP50.
Anybody going to NAMM? Could you please compare the DX7 sounds of CP1 vs. CP50? That should be a good indication of how well SCM works. According to the MIDI parameter list, you don't have any real control over the FM operator count, configuration, mixing, etc. All they give you is four patches ("variations" in the video) and some extremely limited twiddle room. Meh. They could have easily thrown a real DX7, or even better an FS1r, in there. The tons of patches floating around the web would have made it really useful. Ever read the patents on those things? The DX7 was a model of efficiency in hardware requiring no multiplications (they did it all with logs).
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My Yamaha clinician buddy in Canada, Ian, had to sign an NDA agreement (non-disclosure) so I imagine Moose might be in the same situation. Yea, but an NDA is for two companies that enter into a limited technology sharing arrangement. I'm a very interested consumer who can't even get the time of day out of Yamaha.
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