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#1343047 - 01/07/10 09:54 AM RCM Grade 10 Exams  
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Well I'm in grade nine right now, and taking grade ten piano. I'm looking to take the test this month, and does anyone have any suggestions on how to practice better?

What do you guys do to inspire yourself to practice?

And what is the pass mark for the exam? Both to continue on to ARCT and just as a "pass"?

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#1343076 - 01/07/10 10:46 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Arvendragon]  
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I can't tell you the pass mark, as I'm only Grade 8. For practising, I set myself goals. I usually practise around 2 hours a day, warming up with scales before mastering 5 - 10 bars of a piece. If the practising becomes tiresome, I just take a break and relax for a bit. But just think of the reward for all the hard work when you can play a piece all the way through, that is the most rewarding feeling smile


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#1343092 - 01/07/10 11:20 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Samuel1993]  
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RCM grade 10 exam, you need 60 to pass but either overall 75 or minimum 70 in each section to pursue ARCT.

What do you mean by practice better? Which aspect do you think you need to improve?

I've never taken RCM exams but what was your mark for grade 9, did you get comment sheets? That should be an indication if your practice strategy is good or not.

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#1343116 - 01/07/10 11:48 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Juli_et]  
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Arvendragon :

I, personally, don't need to be inspired to practice; I look forward every day to my morning practice session from 9:00 to 12:00.

A deadline, whether self-imposed or imposed externally, is often a good incentive to practice.

As for questions about RCM requirements, you could a) ask your teacher or b) get a copy of the Piano Syllabus. Those of us who have the Syllabus have to look up answers there. All your RCM-related questions will be answered in the Syllabus.

As Juli says, 60 is pass minimum for Grade 10, but, as a pre-requisite :
"The candidate has completed the Grade 10 Piano examination with a total mark of 75 or a minimum of 70 percent in each section of the examination at least one session prior. and The candidate has completed the theory co-requisite examinations for Grade 10 with a total mark of at least 60 for each examination, at least one session prior." (RCM Piano Syallabus, 2008; p. 99)

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#1343137 - 01/07/10 12:32 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: BruceD]  
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To answer your second question, I do not need inspiration either. I enjoy practicing. In the past I had times where I was sick of practicing but I had too much pressure and needed a break. However, it has always helped me listening to pianists. When I was in college I was surprised most of the other piano students did not have pianist recordings to listen to. Today, you can go to you tube to watch some great pianists playing.

#1343450 - 01/07/10 09:02 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Juli_et]  
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I know the answer to this! I'm a pro at RCM 10! I've taken it 3 times smile The key is not to put off the technical tests until the month before the exam. My other big problem was crazy hand shakiness (because I knew I hadn't practiced enough).
I did pass the 3rd time. Whew!
Consider the Earmaster 5.0 for ear tests, or some other ear training program. It's a good help for chords and intervals, etc.
Good luck! Choose pieces you like so you enjoy practicing them.


Bach French Suites No. 6, Allemande and Gigue, Beethoven's Pathetique, Chopin Nocturne 72/1, Fantaisie-Impromptu, Debussy's First Arabesque, Takacs Toccata Op 54, Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableau 33/8.
#1343750 - 01/08/10 08:36 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: BruceD]  
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Originally Posted by BruceD

"The candidate has completed the Grade 10 Piano examination with a total mark of 75 or a minimum of 70 percent in each section of the examination at least one session prior. and The candidate has completed the theory co-requisite examinations for Grade 10 with a total mark of at least 60 for each examination, at least one session prior." (RCM Piano Syallabus, 2008; p. 99)


I understand that you need the theory co-requisites, but what happens when you take the theory at the same time or after?

I remember taking the Advanced Rudiments in Grade 7 along with the practical, and I passed both and received a certificate. Has this changed?

#1343757 - 01/08/10 08:56 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Arvendragon]  
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Are you in Gr9 school or piano right now I am confused. Anyway, I suggest that you sit down and practice for an hour, take a break, do something else and then come back to it.


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#1343768 - 01/08/10 09:29 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Louis H. Bousquet]  
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I'm in 9 in school and 10 piano.

Yeah, I find breaks are great, but I've played each of my songs enough times to find them incredibly boring. T.T

But only 2 weeks left... MUST PRACTICE.

And I found it helps a lot to "feel" the music better.

#1343915 - 01/08/10 01:02 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Arvendragon]  
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LOL i'm in the same boat as Arvendragon... i've taken it twice to far... got a 69% the second time i took it...

The first time i failed horribly because i left technique until the last minute. Thakfully thouhg since the new 2008 syllabus has come out, the technical requirements aren't as hard (IHMO) as before, where you had to know practically all of the tech (scales, chords etc) for ALL of the keys! ALL OF THEM! it was ridiculous! Too much for me to handle.

The second time i did it it was still in the old syllabus but i was prepared... except i got so nervous and had memory lapses on *all* my pieces. I still passed, but not enough for ARCT (the grading mentioned above, 60 to pass, 75 minimum for ARCT or 70 in each is cofrect)

As for the theory/harmony prerequisites i *think* thye need to be completed within a year of each other? That seems a little odd to me but i think they just changed it... it used to be that you had a few years to complete it, because I had my grad 4 harmony and grade 4 history completed when i was 15 and didn't do my grade 10 piano until i was 18.

Hope this helps and good luck! Eventually i keep telling myself i'm going to go again for my grade 10.... but it's been over 7 years since the last time i tried :S


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#1343988 - 01/08/10 02:42 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: MordentMusic]  
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Originally Posted by MordentMusic
[...]
As for the theory/harmony prerequisites i *think* thye need to be completed within a year of each other? That seems a little odd to me but i think they just changed it... it used to be that you had a few years to complete it, because I had my grad 4 harmony and grade 4 history completed when i was 15 and didn't do my grade 10 piano until i was 18.
[...]


The current syllabus states that

"Certificates are awarded to candidates who successfully complete the requirements for their grade.
Beginning in Grade 5 certificates are awarded after the theory co-requisites for that grade have been successfully completed. Theory co-requisites must be completed within five years of the original practical examination." (Piano Syllabus, 2008; p. 123.

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#1344023 - 01/08/10 03:33 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: BruceD]  
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In a heap of trouble
I am also doing the grade 10 RCM exam this month. :|
Which pieces are you playing, Arvendragon?


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#1344057 - 01/08/10 04:28 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: hat]  
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I just got the Syllabus today, and I found I needed FIVE songs (no teacher). I'm glad I had picked a song from that section to play with.

I'll be playing the Prelude and Fugue in E Flat Major (Bach, BWV 876), the Sonata in D Major (Hadyn,Hob. XVI:33), Momente Musical (Schubert, Op. 94, D870, No. 2), I've been practicing two songs from D so I guess I'll pick before the exam, and Variations in A Minor (Kabalevsky, Op. 40, No.2)

#1344071 - 01/08/10 04:56 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Arvendragon]  
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Sounds good, I'm doing the same Haydn sonata.. it's pretty neat.
What about studies? If you don't mind me asking cool


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#1348001 - 01/12/10 08:25 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: hat]  
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I'll return to the original question - "how to practise better?" and offer some ideas that I wished I had used back in the days when I did my Gr 10 and ARCT exams (though I did manage to get thru both of them in one pass!)
- Practising isn't about time spent - it's clearly about focus. I spent 10 days at a music workshop in France this summer and one of the themes discussed many times was the idea that we have to practise with specific goals in mind. So before you just dive in, think about what you are trying to achieve in a particular practise session. You will find that you can make major improvements without spending anywhere near as much time.
- for problem sections work both forward and backward from the most difficult spot to gain confidence
- remember practising and playing are two different things. Yes, as you work towards an exam or recital you have to be able to pull it all together, but even then you can focus on working on specifics. Have a large scale plan in mind - what effect are you trying to convey in certain passages and pieces. Think about the plan and layout of the entire piece. I use the idea of a roadmap with different turns and directions when I'm working with my 8-yr old daughter to pull larger pieces together (she's working toward her RCM Gr5 exam) and this helps fix a plan in place. You might come up with other things that work for you (and it might be different for different types of works).

#1348025 - 01/12/10 08:45 PM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: gmf001]  
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RCM grade 5 at 8? That's pretty impressive.


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#1348237 - 01/13/10 01:31 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: gmf001]  
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Originally Posted by gmf001
I'll return to the original question - "how to practise better?" and offer some ideas that I wished I had used back in the days when I did my Gr 10 and ARCT exams (though I did manage to get thru both of them in one pass!)
- Practising isn't about time spent - it's clearly about focus. I spent 10 days at a music workshop in France this summer and one of the themes discussed many times was the idea that we have to practise with specific goals in mind. So before you just dive in, think about what you are trying to achieve in a particular practise session. You will find that you can make major improvements without spending anywhere near as much time.
- for problem sections work both forward and backward from the most difficult spot to gain confidence
- remember practising and playing are two different things.


Such Sage advice! I agree completely. I read the book "Improve Your Piano Playing" by John Meffen and it was such a revelation to me. I wish that I had been taught the skills he was advocating when I was 10 rather than in my late 30's. My practice has changed as a result and a lot of what I do is more cerebral now, I think about what I am trying to achieve and what I am trying to convey and how I am going to achieve that goal. Consequently, practice is not really about playing a piece from beginning to end anymore. It is so much more than that.

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#1357584 - 01/25/10 10:25 AM Re: RCM Grade 10 Exams [Re: Oz Marcus]  
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Hey guys, you can find some really good rcm style ear tests at this youtube channel: www.youtube.com/keyboardplaying1


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