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Best Humidifiers for piano room #1335989
12/29/09 03:07 AM
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Many have posted in the past about using humidifiers to help keep their pianos on a more evenly controled air quality helping with the tuning of their pianos. But I can't remember if a specific brand or brands were mentioned. Are there some that are better than others, hold up better, and approximately how expensive are they? I would appreciate any and all input.

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Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: Roxy] #1336003
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I think the main differences aren't brand, but:

-- size, and
-- type

There are 3 main types, as far as I know:

-- hot mist
-- cool mist
-- ultrasonic

Lately I've been getting ultrasonic, but I'm not sure it's any better than cool mist. I think you're probably equally fine with either. I'm not sure why they even make hot mist....from what I know, which admittedly is far from expert, it seems like it's pretty clearly in last place among the three.

Don't ask me "why" on any of this, because I don't exactly know. smile

Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: Mark_C] #1339900
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My solution is to place large pots of plants that tolerate low light under the piano and keep the soil moist. Although the humidity in my house is not too bad considering I live in the cold frozen Canadian prairies....house is 30%, but the interior of the piano is 40%. I also keep little tubs of water in the piano in front of the pins. My tech always screams at me when he sees that...so I take them out before he comes to tune...and he always...hmmm the humidity is not too bad inside the piano...most of my customers are in the mid to low 20's. SMIRK!!!!

I'm a big gardener, so I always have lots of plants that need to come in to winter, so I have at least a dozen pots under the piano...tall peruvian daffodils/amaryllis with long stems that bring humidity right up near the soundboard without me doing anything other than watering.

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Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: skyblanche] #1339971
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Does using a humidifier make a big difference in keeping up a tuning? My piano was tuned about 2/3 weeks ago, and I can already tell that it's going out. Not that it sounds bad, but it just loses that sparkle that it has when it's freshly tuned.

The piano gets tuned every 6 months (I've only had it about 7 months, but that's the plan) and when it goes out of tune I don't want to play as much.


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Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: Cwhaticando] #1339975
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I recently was in Germany (Sep) and visited a high end piano manufacturer as well as a German piano parts supply company.
Both of them speak highly of a humidifier called a Venta-Airwasher. I've researched them since and have decided to invest in a few for my store. The technology is neither cool mist or warm mist. And it even helps clean the air in the room/surroundings where it is used/placed.
Again, I have yet to have a personal experience with them but I have had plenty of experience with the other types and have not been overly impressed.


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Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: Cwhaticando] #1339979
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Originally Posted by Cwhaticando
Does using a humidifier make a big difference in keeping up a tuning?.....

YES!
Provided that the humidifier does significantly bring up the relative humidity, which it doesn't necessarily. In my current place, I need to use two humidifiers to achieve it, on opposite side of the piano.

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My piano was tuned about 2/3 weeks ago, and I can already tell that it's going out.....

I think it's likely that it's because of dryness.

Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: Mark_C] #1340026
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As mentioned in several recent posts of mine -

VENTA Air purifier Humidifier.

Several of us own one.

(I feel like a broken record here - but just trying to help each who start a thread on HELP!)

SEE:
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...Low%20Winter%20Humidity.html#Post1340023

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Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: lilylady] #1341328
01/05/10 12:38 PM
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Most folks use some type of cool mist humidifier. Ultrasonic humidifiers can leave a white dust like residue (perhaps newer ones are better), if you use one, be sure to use filtered/distilled water or some type of additive. Warm mist humidifiers are very expensive to run and have to be kept very clean (not that the others shouldn't but warm mist humidifiers even more so).

I use a large Bemis "whole house" humidifier (a standalone unit, not to be confused with a system that installs into your HVAC). My problem is that the piano is in a large open space, so it takes a significant amount of water and air to maintain adequate humidity levels. Thus the large Bemis (IIRC it's rated to humidify 1700sqft, that's quite optimistic indeed depending on what else is going on, e.g. heaters running).

I looked at the Venta but decided that I would need a few of them and the thought of cleaning several out every few weeks turned me off. Instead I also have a couple of HEPA filters that do an excellent job of cleaning the air and are very quiet.

Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: bitWrangler] #1341355
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Originally Posted by bitWrangler
......Ultrasonic humidifiers can leave a white dust like residue (perhaps newer ones are better), if you use one, be sure to use filtered/distilled water or some type of additive......

Great post! I just wanted to mention, about this part of it: I know that that's the frequent caveat about ultrasonics, but my impression is that the filter prevents that. In any event, I have a couple of those and there doesn't seem to be a problem.

Re: Best Humidifiers for piano room [Re: Mark_C] #1341362
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Another vote for VENTA of which I have several. Cleaning is not an issue, I simply dump whatever is left every morning and refill. I have particularly hard water and this seems to mitigate liming. I am able to consistently maintain about 42%-45% in the winter here in Michigan. At their lowest fan speed, the are relatively very quiet and non-instrusive. Lastly, we do have a whole house aprilaire as well on a forced air system. By itself, it is only capable of maintaining in the upper 20's percent.


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