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Confused of buying Casio PX130 or Yamaha NP 30
#1328976 12/19/09 11:57 AM
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Hello all,

second thread of my.
The CDP's from Casio are not an option anymore smile

Ok, I think I have these 2 options, BUT, the casio will cost more then 200EUR extra.
That's a lot of money and maybe you can help me with my choice.

1) Does the PX130 have a far better sounds then the NP30 or is it about the same? (I will used it on my headphones)

2) I never played an acoustic piano, but the PX130 has much better feel I read then the NP30.
Do you think, it brings more pleasure with those extra feeling to play piano?

3) Due to the heavier key system of the PX130, is it usuable for a beginner like me (starting the Alfred books) or will I lose fun in it because of the heavy/stiff system?

4) I'm not sure if I will play piano in the future, and I also don't know if I will search for a teacher.
I just want to have some fun and see were it goes.
But on the other site, I don't want to purchese an other DP in the near future smile

Thanks for reading and andwereing those lot of questions.
Hope you can help me out.

By the way, I have already read a lot of PX130 threads but couldn't find something which adapts my situation.

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Tha Casio has a better action and actually even if you are a beginner I am sure that you will like it much better than the Yamaha np 30.
In terms of sound, I find both of them acceptable taking into account the limits of the built-in tiny speakers.

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NP30 doesn't have hammer action keys, avoid.

PX130 I don't like (IMO), Yamaha P85 is the bare minimum I would suggest you go on a DP.

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PX-130 is ok. PX-830 has better key action & speakers.


P-85 cheap plastic imitation; not because of sound, but weight.
Re: Confused of buying Casio PX130 or Yamaha NP 30
Huygens #1329024 12/19/09 12:47 PM
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I would avoid the NP-30 as well, if you are looking for a proper weighted piano action.

I recommend the Yamaha P-85.


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snazzyplayer #1329030 12/19/09 12:59 PM
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RayB, the weighting of the keys should enable you to play with much more expression. This will become more important to you as you progress in your learning. It will also help you when you want to play other people's pianos (acoustic or DP). That said, the few minutes I spent on the NP30 made me think that Yamaha had achieved a reasonable compromise with that DP's keyboard. The action was reasonably expressive for a non-weighted piano. However, I think that if you decide not to continue your studies in the future, a weighted board will have better resale value. In addition to the PX-130 and P-85, you might consider a used Casio Privia or Yamaha.


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Re: Confused of buying Casio PX130 or Yamaha NP 30
voxpops #1329138 12/19/09 02:47 PM
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Thanks for the quick reactions already.

So if I understand it well, I can better do it correct and pay 100 EUR more for a Yamaha P85 instead of the PX130?

That sounds very logical to me, BUT,
why is it then a lot of people on this forum bought a PX130 of you get a P85 for "only" 100EUR more?

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Personally, I think the PX-130 with its 4-layer sampling and 128-note polyphony represents very good value. I'm not sure I would want to pay more for a P-85. However, as everyone points out, it's best if you try these boards yourself. Even if you can't play very well, you can see which tone is more appealing to you, and you can always ask a piano player to play the same piece on each keyboard to give you a better idea of the expressivity.


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voxpops #1329163 12/19/09 03:25 PM
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It was quite simple for me.

I played the PX-130 and said, "Eeecccchhhh!"(Actually, it wasn't that bad, but it didn't appeal to me)

I played the P-85 and said, "Hey, this is pretty decent. I think I'll buy two of them."

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I bought a px330 based on the bang for a buck principle but after a month noticed a high pitched clicking sound at times which i thought was some electronic click at first because i had heaphones on and couldn't tell where exactly it was coming from. Then i noticed that two of the keys just to the right of the center of the keyboard wer practically touching together and when i played them they occasionally did touch making that clicking sound when their edges glanced together. I then noticed that the keys in general had quite a bit more side play, wiggle potential, than the older yamaha non weighted keyboard i had so figured that they had a different way of attaching the keys that made them more stable. Not sure if this is indicative of yamahas quaity overall but it made me think that may be the case. i returned the Px330 added 400 to get a yamaha p155 (for 960) and couldn't be happier with it.

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Originally Posted by snazzyplayer
I played the P-85 and said, "Hey, this is pretty decent. I think I'll buy two of them."

Some times you really cheer up my day. smile

A little wondering from my side, did you notice if you thought the PX-130 was better at some octaves than others?

As comparison, I think the P-85 is very weak at the top & bottom 3 notes at both ends of the keyboard, and assume the rest of the world would think the same.


P-85 cheap plastic imitation; not because of sound, but weight.
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Huygens #1329219 12/19/09 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Huygens


[A little wondering from my side, did you notice if you thought the PX-130 was better at some octaves than others?

As comparison, I think the P-85 is very weak at the top & bottom 3 notes at both ends of the keyboard, and assume the rest of the world would think the same.


To be frank, Huygens, the Casio didn't make me feel like playing it very much.

I've never been able to put my finger on quite why I don’t like keyboards made by Casio. But now I do. They are not joyous. They don't have much in the way of character or personality. They are built purely to make you feel that every single part has come from the lowest bidder.

Certainly the P-85 isn't perfect, but for the money, it had what I liked, and sounded equally good playing jazz or classical...shucks, even the Floyd Cramer stuff sounded cool.

I can't say I found the top or bottom notes on either of my P-85's to be weak, but if they are to you, they sure are in the right place, because you (and I) probably don't visit those keys all that often. wink

Perhaps there were running changes (updates) to the P-85 that were slipped in over it's production run...that happens more often than we're aware of, I bet.

I'm pretty pleased with the P-85, Huygens, based on it's own merits, and tiny flaws...it has character, and I like that in an instrument, as much as I admire it in people. wink

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Originally Posted by Rayb
Thanks for the quick reactions already.

So if I understand it well, I can better do it correct and pay 100 EUR more for a Yamaha P85 instead of the PX130?


It is not clear that the P85 is better than the PX130. It's a matter of opinion and people will come down about 50/50 on this.

The PX130 might have better key action and does have multi-strike samples which the P85 lacks. But some like the Yamaha's sound and others like the Yamaha's light key action. Others hate it.

You will have to play both of them long enough to form an opinion yourself.

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So if I understand it well, I can better do it correct and pay 100 EUR more for a Yamaha P85 instead of the PX130?


It is not clear that the P85 is better than the PX130. It's a matter of opinion and people will come down about 50/50 on this.

The PX130 might have better key action and does have multi-strike samples which the P85 lacks. But some like the Yamaha's sound and others like the Yamaha's light key action. Others hate it.

You will have to play both of them long enough to form an opinion yourself.

I think a lot of it comes down to brand prefference and maybe even how the two keyboards look. But based only on specifications the PX130 wins but Yamaha has a better reputation. But then theat repuatation is baed on their higher end products. See? I can argue both ways.

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ChrisA #1329277 12/19/09 05:32 PM
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ChrisA,

What kind/brand/model of digital piano(s) do you play?

Why?

If you had your way clear to get any digital...what would it be?

Why?


Snazzy


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