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Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB #1307423
11/17/09 07:58 PM
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I tried the AP-45 a little while back and really liked it. But given they have a sale on the PX-730 until November 22 I'm considering it. Is there a consensus on which one is superior (forgetting the price).

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Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: SAphoto] #1307479
11/17/09 09:52 PM
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It really depends on what you're looking for in a DP.

The AP-45 is in the Celviano range, which is basically the Privia in a better, sturdier-looking console case, slightly longer pedals, a MUCH sturdier music stand, and better speakers. They may also have extra features like voices, rhythms, and connections depending on the model. However, the AP-45 is now 2 generations behind the current Casio models so I suggest you consider it very carefully. It uses the older ZPI sound source and only has 64 note polyphony. The current generation uses the AIF sound source and has 128 polyphony. You may not need all that polyphony, but electronic devices like digital pianos improve incrementally every time a new model comes out. I have both the PX-720 (last generation) and PX-730 (current model), and I can tell the improvements especially in touch and responsiveness. I suggest you go to a store to try out both models and find out for yourself which you like better.


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Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: marimorimo] #1307749
11/18/09 12:00 PM
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Thank you Marimorimo,

This guy did an excellent review of the PX-730, and at current prices it's very attractive I must say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwJJm7X7-7U&feature=related

I did find that the PX-730 looked cheaper though, and there is something about the AP-45 that I really like in the construction and sound -but alas 64 polyphony. Sounds like I need the AP-400, which is twice the price of the PX-730. Such dilemma.

I would love to hear more comments.

Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: SAphoto] #1307771
11/18/09 12:41 PM
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Why limit yourself to what Cosco sells? There are other places and UPS/FedEX will deliver to your house.

The new Casio px130/330/630/730 line is a great value compared to others brands

But what's saving $100 or so if it's not the perfect fit for your needs? You'll soon forget the price but you will have this piano for the next several years.

I'm not saying "Don't buy it". In fact it may be the best thing for you. But some alarms ring when I read the question "best Cosco piano". I would suggest thinking about what you want first, even writing down in order which features are most important which are least and then casting a wider net and looking at multiple brands and multiple retailers. And then maybe go back to Cosco and buy the 730 if that is the right piano.

One thing you really do have to do is bring in some good headphones and spend some time listening to the sound. It takes time to hear. At first you may like it but after a couple hours maybe not. For example the local collage has many older Kawai DPs. At first I was impressed by the sound but now it sounds very "synthetic" and un-detailed. The sound is "to clean" and lacks the overtones of a real piano. (in Kawai's defence the CN21 is an older, low end model) but still, I say this to point out that you need to listen for quite some time to develop an informed opinion. Five minutes is not enough.

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Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: ChrisA] #1307783
11/18/09 01:00 PM
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I know what you mean about the "best Cosco piano" alarm. I am looking at other options, however Costco usually offers the best value, it's close to home, can be returned and etc. I want a decent piano at good value right now, just so at least I have a piano.

After a lot more research, it sounds like the PX-800 would be a good compromise (which happens to be sold at Cosco:P). Here are the current prices (which are inclusive of shipping):

Privia PX-800 $899.99
Celviano AP-45CB $749.99
Privia PX-730 $$649.99

What would you do? And I am opened to other places to buy but I live in Toronto Canada. As far as sound, I know I liked AP-45 more than PX-730. Listening to other people playing on youtube, I like what I hear from the PX-800.

Thanks

Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: SAphoto] #1307900
11/18/09 04:46 PM
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PX-730 is in my opinion the best choice of these 3.

The additional voices of the PX800 are useless for me (I have a PX-320) and I do not like its color.
The Celviano is probably better finished, but it is an older generation and I expect the action not being as good as the latest PX generation.

The PX-730 is the cheapest, comes with everything you need, but probably offers the best action of the 3. I also expect it to be better as a digital piano as the PX-130 is with the piano voices (4 layers vs 3 for the PX-800) and if you want to add sounds, you can always connect it to your PC and use the PC as a sound module for almost free.


Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: Vincent L.] #1308271
11/19/09 05:19 AM
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What about the AP-200. Costco online [U.S.] has them for $799 with a collapsible bench-seat. The AP-200 has the new sound source and 128 note polyphony, just with fewer bells and whistles.

I got my AP-45 from Costco online two years ago, assembled it out of the box and have loved it ever since.


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Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: jrcallan] #1328717
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i just bought the px730 from costco.ca and i must say i am not quite satisfied with it....the sound/speaker is horrible... i own a yamaha dgx220 which is outdated for like 4 yrs and still sounds better than the 730. it sounds very digital and harsh especially if u play for longer periods.
the keys would budge around so it doesnt seems so solid and i feel if i use it for a while it would fall.. one thing i like is the action of the keyboard. the weight is just right.
i am considering returning it and buying a yamaha p155 at boxing day. anyone here has this model and please please give me a review on it? is it worth the few hundreds more?

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Re: Which Cosco piano to buy? Privia PX-730 or Celviano AP-45CB [Re: Skyview] #1328777
12/19/09 12:32 AM
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Not trying to be mean, but I'd consider burning my money before spending it on a Priva. They look good on paper but in the harsh light of day are considerably less than the sum of their parts (IMO).

Not trying to be snooty, but you really want a reputable brand when buying a DP, and Casio ain't it (IMO). They might be there in a few years though.

Last edited by dewster; 12/19/09 12:36 AM.

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