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Re: Asperger's music joys and frustrations
keystring #1314163 11/29/09 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by keystring
The important thing to know is, as far as I understand it, there are advantages, strengths, also to be drawn on and used.


I have been diagnosed with Asperger's too. I think I am a little bit clumsy in real life with my hands, but it is a miracle I can play several instruments without any problem.
At any rate, yes, I suppose there are also advantages in this disorder (?), like extreme creativity, more focus on what you really want to do...



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Re: Asperger's music joys and frustrations
ChopinAddict #1315075 11/30/09 01:47 PM
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Monica K: Yes, I had real pleasure there with the pipe organ ! not sure 'fun' would be the right word in a former Benedictine church, but hopefully I haven't desecrated the spirit of the place. I knew these pieces are actually used in Swedish or UK church weddings...

One technical peculiarity there was the organ had a largish delay in attack (>0.3 s) due to pneumatic servo, so any mistakes were impossible to correct 'by ear' as the wrong note was already physically 'in the air' for a long time.

DragonPianoPlayer: yes, you expanded nicely my understanding of the Circle of Fifths. It may also be stated as a closest approximation by a fraction:
log2 1.5 ~ 7/12
Now, just major thirds (5/4) are harder to get into such a cyclical approximation system, so any temperament is just a compromise...

The current UK naming is "Autistic spectrum conditions" - not disorders or diseases. In the milder part advantages can be predominant too (actually as a kid they saw my advantages first, only slower through life all the correlated problems started to show). Now, my main life limitation is in "executive function" - what I say as "being one's secretary, boss and slave too". It indirectly affects music too, through that recurring frustration and insufficient ordered effort to overcome the obstacles.

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A long quote from "Methodology of Frpntal and Executive Function" ed. Patrick Rabbitt, 1997/2005

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Shiffrin and Schneider (1977) and Schneider and Shiffrin (1977) have shown
that it is eventually possible for two tasks to be carried out without mutual
interference, but this only happens if they are practised together, rather than
separately. Schneider and Detweiler (1988) formally propose a number
of successive, qualitative changes which must take place before dual-task
performance becomes maximally efficient. The model envisages that even singletask
learning involves a transition between successive, qualitatively distinct,
information-handling stages. When a task is first encountered it initially involves
a very heavy memory load because it is necessary to maintain in working
memory, and to load as necessary, a variety of memory vectors, representing
almost all possible connections between representations of information and
operations that have to be carried out. In a subsequent processing stage, that of
context-controlled comparison, the representation of information is translated
into a more economical set of memory vectors, which are maintained and used.
Further practice enables Goal—state maintained controlled comparison in which
target memory vectors are directly transmitted from input to produce output;
finally, automatic single-task processing allows even more economical use of
memory vectors, and so of what might be termed, in the context of such
quantification as M-space, or mu, maximally economical use of processing space.
Dual-task performance requires at least seven further changes. In order of their
use during practice on dual tasks these are: (1) shedding the tasks of pre-loading
information for each task, and of time-scheduling its access and use; (2) letting
go of higher workload strategies that are necessary to cope with complex tasks;
(3) utilising non-competing resources, as far as possible; (4) multiplexing
transmissions over time (i.e. increased parallel processing of information from
both tasks); (5) reducing redundancy to a minimum by shortening necessary
transmissions; (6) converting interference from concurrent transmissions; and,
finally, (7) achieving economies of information processed by chunking
transmissions.
In distinction to the simplistic network model with which we began, this
sophisticated model does not merely assume that individuals improve by
carrying out fewer and fewer of a set of operations that are, essentially, of the
same kind but rather that they proceed through a decalage of successive,
independent “stages” in each of which the production system carries out a
different pattern of operations. The challenge is to invent experimental tasks in
which identifying characteristics for each of these successive processing stages
may be observed. Until this is possible empirical neuropsychologists may have to
be content with attempts to improve the sensitivity of global quantitative indices
of dual-task information load, such as mu (Baddeley, Della Salla et al., this
book), which at least allow comparative statements of the relative amounts of
capacity consumed by each of two, simultaneous and competing, tasks.
"

And I personally consider learning to control a musical instrument through increasing complexity of musical information just that needed test-task for psychologists to study...

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