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Gray market pianos have serial numbers, too.


That's why I recommend anybody buying form a grey-market dealer to reveal the original 'rating' of the piano.

These ratings are original supplier's lists for the dealer before he buys his stock.

It's either A,B, or C plus or minus marks

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piano building has actually got quite bad recently because now yamahas are all nearly computer built and rarley ever see human hands. even steinway has had to cut corners. the g3 was made when piano making was high quality. if it is a g3e it would be superior to the c3(plus a g3e sounds more like a steinway)

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Markle
piano building has actually got quite bad recently because now yamahas are all nearly computer built and rarley ever see human hands. even steinway has had to cut corners. the g3 was made when piano making was high quality. if it is a g3e it would be superior to the c3(plus a g3e sounds more like a steinway)


uh, ok smirk

Interesting reply to a very old thread.


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Nicholas,

On what experience do you base your observation/conclusion,
"piano building has actually got quite bad recently"?
You premise, "yamahas are all nearly computer built and rarley ever see human hands" is ludicrous.

I don't know of a single company/factory that is building inferior instruments to what they were building five or ten years ago. Nearly every piano product on the market continues to evolve in a positive way. There are still tons of man-hours in hand work on Yamahas and Kawais.

Computers have little or nothing to do with assembly (building). Computers have been used for years for CAD in the design and drafting processes, CAE in the engineering processes and layout, and CNC in the wood cutting and metal working. CNC usage has been hearalded by even the most stringent conservatives for delivering upmost accuracy and consistancy.

I have seen no evidence that Steinway & Sons is "cutting corners" compared to its materials and manufacturing techniques of ten or even twenty years ago.

A brand new Yamaha C3, or Kawai RX-3, or Steinway & Sons B is evolutionary up the ladder from those of decades past.

Your contention that a 20 year old Yamaha G3 would be superior in performance to a new Yamaha C3 is awfully reactionary and defies significant improvements in the product.


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