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COOL!! You mentioned Scriabin too! (See above post.)

That etude you mentioned (42/5) is one of my favorites also....and I understand it was THE one that Scriabin himself performed the most, supposedly even more than the famous earlier C# minor.

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Originally Posted by Rach3PianoS139
I'm trying to listen to really passionate music, such passionate as the Transcendental Etude No.10 by Liszt or the Symphony No.2 by Rachmaninoff.
Btw, my favorite piece in this field is Reminiscences de Norma by Liszt :), it's so passionate and emotional.
Can you list some other options??


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I haven't read the other replies yet, so apologies if someone has already said these:

Prokofiev Piano Sonata 1, Op 1
Scriabin Etude D# minor Op 8
Schumann Fantasie in C, Op 17 no 3

Among many others :-)


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Nice collection there!!
BTW...by saying #3 on the Schumann, do you mean to single out the last movement?

Certainly that Schumann (even just the opening bars of the piece) belong in any discussion of 'passionate and intense.'

And I'm thrilled to see so many people mentioning Scriabin.
That D# minor etude is extremely passionate and intense, even when played in an understated way, which some people do.

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P.S. Did you know that THIS performance of the D# minor etude exists?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK2uTtuI84w

I was bowled over when I discovered it.

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Originally Posted by MarkCannon
Nice collection there!!
BTW...by saying #3 on the Schumann, do you mean to single out the last movement?

Certainly that Schumann (even just the opening bars of the piece) belong in any discussion of 'passionate and intense.'

And I'm thrilled to see so many people mentioning Scriabin.
That D# minor etude is extremely passionate and intense, even when played in an understated way, which some people do.


Re: Schumann - no, I think it is passionate pretty much from beginning to end, although the middle mov is held back.

Thanks for the link to that recording, no I had not heard it before! My fave recording of it prior was one of Horowitz last live performances of it. Very powerful and moving.


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Yes.......Horowitz of course performed the D# minor Etude many times and recorded it various times also. I mentioned before that some people play it "understated," and while some of Horowitz's performances of it were full of fire, I came across at least one (a LATE performance) that was EXTREMELY restrained -- starting softly and remaining 'lyrical' most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Rach3PianoS139

Btw, my favorite piece in this field is Reminiscences de Norma by Liszt :), it's so passionate and emotional.

The OP managed to mention -IMO- Liszt's greatest operatic fantasy, and certainly a work which qualifies as 'passionate and intense'. Taken on its own, there are few finer, and more exciting, pieces in the repertoire. It should be cataloged as an original work by Liszt with themes borrowed from Bellini.

Really now, to call it an 'operatic fantasy' damns it to reside amongst the pedestrian -and frequently tiresome- efforts of Thalberg, Herz, Pixis, deMayer, all that stuff. Might as well put the Liszt B minor Sonata next to the MacDowell sonatas and be careful not to remove the musical blinders.


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Originally Posted by babama
Check this out: Lazar Berman - Scriabin Fantasie Op. 28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxeGu-RKC-Q&fmt=18

Fantastic. What a MONSTROUS piece. Almost too much for me... almost. smile


I think the greatest performance is by Sofronitsky, but it's less enjoyable in sound quality. The way he plays that theme at 1:54 is out of this world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvc2K_5JWho

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How could anyone forget allegro appassionato from Brahm's B-flat piano concerto shocked



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Originally Posted by david_a
Are you interested in piano only, or all sorts of things?

(For example, Puccini didn't give us much piano music, but maybe you'll want to listen anyway...)


No, I don't mind if it is not piano. Thanks

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I'm presently quite astounded that no one has mentioned Chopin yet. :P

Here's a few for you:

Prelude Op. 28 No. 24
Piano Sonata No. 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihjDQbMTZIo
Ballade No. 2 (it's very calm at first, but sets up quite an interesting contrast eventually... I guarantee that the last two minutes will satisfy you, at least) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsoUIBcl7iw

I personally like Arrau's version of the preludes the best (but they aren't on YouTube), and Zimerman/Ashkenazy for the sonata. As for the four Ballades, Zimerman is unparalleled.

Some other intense pieces that may or may not exactly meet your criteria are a few of Chopin's etudes (10/1, 10/4, 10/12, 25/11, 25/12 come to mind), the first movements of both his concertos, and Liszt's TE Nos. 4, 8, and 12, and Liszt's Totentanz.

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I only just recently discovered Sofronitsky (via youtube, plus via learning more about Scriabin ......you probably know that Sofronitsky married his daughter). I'd never heard of him before.
And yes, he's extraordinary.
I found a fantastic recording by him of the 9th sonata, and it sounds probably even weirder than it was supposed to smile because (I'm pretty sure) they played back the master too slow, so THE PITCH IS LOW!! (by about a full quarter-tone)

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Yup -- the 2nd movement of the Brahms 2nd concerto absolutely also belongs in any discussion of "passionate and intense."

BTW.......off the subject, but did you ever realize.....
The main theme of the 1st mvt fits perfectly to the words:
"This.....is.....Brahms'......se-cond-con-cer.........to......"

And that's not all. smile
The main theme of the FIRST concerto fits perfectly with:
"THIS........IS.........THE...FIRST...ONE!" ha

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Yes, it's pretty glaring that nobody had mentioned Chopin. And I'd have to guess that it's because of that word "INTENSE."
It's not that Chopin isn't intense, just that it's not one of the main things we associate with him.

If we had to single out some Chopin pieces......good job mentioning that prelude (#24).
Also how about the 16th prelude.
And also, good job mentioning the 2nd sonata -- through and through.

I'd add the 4th Ballade and the F# minor Polonaise.

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Rachmaninoff's unique performance of his "Elegie"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9PX4VkN4I

Horowitz playing Liszt's "Funerailles"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRNy4pUTgWQ

However my favourite recording of the Funerailles is this recording by Raffaele Mani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaPW_4K-_8M

Liszt's Bm sonata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOSIlXnM7Co

Horowitz playing Liszt's Second Ballade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G42K59bQqg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9436krGxzr4&feature=related

Rach's Etude tableaux 39 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-iSmudNgA

Brahmes F minor Sonata, especially first movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha2ZbUPFzV8&feature=related

Rach's G minor prelude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXU7I_Yyi2Y

Rach's C# minor prelude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtuMVBLEWJU&feature=related

These jumped out at me, though there are so many more.

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Alkan's 3rd Souvenir (Morte)!!!

Here is Marc-Andre Hamelin's recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E31_ogoKhVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKTP28iDig&feature=related

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.....and if we're talking Alkan, under the heading of "passionate and intense" maybe we should also mention the 1st movement of the "Symphonie" for solo piano.
Hamelin (of course) does that piece too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMPk...next=1&playnext_from=PL&index=42

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I just noticed:

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Don't expect me to be sane, I'm playing Scriabin

I laughed out loud. Thanks for making my day. :P

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Originally Posted by Fredil
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Don't expect me to be sane, I'm playing Scriabin

I laughed out loud. Thanks for making my day. :P

Thanks much! smile I'm pretty new here and you're the first one who has commented on it.
It always makes my day too. ha

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Originally Posted by MarkCannon

And that's not all. smile
The main theme of the FIRST concerto fits perfectly with:
"THIS........IS.........THE...FIRST...ONE!" ha

Maybe not such an unusual occurrence as you might think. wink Listen to the opening theme of Elgar's Enigma Variations: Ed-ward EL-gar. Perhaps not surprising considering the very cryptic nature of so much of his music.


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