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I like some of Hewitt's Baroque piano works, particularly Couperin & Rameau. While touted as a preeminent Bach expert, I find her interpretations a bit lacking, (preferring Gould & Guida).

While viewing you tube, I enjoy studying her piano technique and in particular her elbow motion and hand articulations. But, I find her facial expressions over-the-top and very distracting. I appreciate that she is attempting to convey emotionality but it is in high contrast with the expressions of Argerich who I find is much preferrable.

In summary, a very ambivalent opinion of Hewitt.

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Originally Posted by Amant
But, I find her facial expressions over-the-top and very distracting.

Perhaps you could close your eyes?


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I agree - I've used the word 'vanilla' before to refer to her Bach. She's obviously a very strong pianist technically speaking but I just find her stuff uninteresting. If you like Gould you should check out Rosalyn Tureck - especially the partitas. Old recordings (1949-50) but really amazing. Gould once claimed that Tureck was his *only* influence.


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Bring not much of a GG fan, I much prefer Angela. But there are others...

I listen on CDs.

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But, I find her facial expressions over-the-top and very distracting.

Perhaps you could close your eyes?


Yeh, but then I wouldn't know when to open them to study her hand motions.

PS - I do like Turek, just don't care for the 1950's HiFi sound, (wish they would digitally clean them up). Feltsman is not bad and Till Fellner has a certain charm. Love Fou Ts'ong's Scarlatti & Handel. But the Bach boomerang keeps returning to Gould.

PSS- I do enjoy watching the techniques of the master pianists on YouTube. Just finished watching Lazar Berman - WOW!, (he sit very near the piano and rather far back on the bench). It is interesting to see Gould and how he sits very low to minimize upper arm motion while placing the weight on his forearms to maximize finger control, (and with relatively flat fingers too). Horowitz plays with relatively flat fingers as well. There is a great clip of Marcus Roberts playing Rhapsody in Blue with the Berliner Philharmoniker led by Ozawa - a true study of hand motion. The early Argerich Chopin pieces are wonderful studies - Brilliant!

Hewitt's "Bach Performance on the Piano" excerpts are very good, (but gosh-darn, only if they didn't show her painful facial expressions they would be better). I wish there were more youtubes from master pianists describing their techniques and approaches ala Hewitt's excerpts.

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Originally Posted by Amant

Hewitt's "Bach Performance on the Piano" excerpts are very good, (but gosh-darn, only if they didn't show her painful facial expressions they would be better). I wish there were more youtubes from master pianists describing their techniques and approaches ala Hewitt's excerpts.

I have Hewitt's dvd set "Bach Performance on the Piano" and I absolutely love watching her. I find her facial expressions quite engaging. She seems to be so emotionally involved with the music that she just can't help herself. That is the power of Bach's music if one truly understands it and feels the underlying passion. Actually I find Ms Hewitt quite pretty in an elegant, old world sort of way. Hmm, maybe I have a crush on her. smile


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Hmm, I haven't seen her on youtube videos- I'll have to check them out. I listen to her Bach Preludes and Fugues on CD though and they are absolutely gorgeous. I love her articulations and clarity.

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Actually I find Ms Hewitt quite pretty in an elegant, old world sort of way.


I think overall she seems genuinely a nice kind person. But she projects an ambivalent stage persona. Yeh, elegant, refined and controlled in a old world Victorian sort of way but also a bit prim, priggish and prudish. She is both warm and cold simultaneously.

Her emotionally involvement just seems a bit contrived (not that it is not truly sincere). It's just theatrically over-the-top for me. Maybe I can just train my dog to yank at my sleeve at the appropriate youtube segment intervals while I'm listening with eyes closed.

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i really like Angela's Bach and haven't noticed any facial expressions.. perhaps i've watched the wrong films. i find her interpretation so intelligent - but, i am a fairly simple minded pianist.


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Of course, we're all individuals - no reason why we should all like the same thing.....


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i really like Angela's Bach and haven't noticed any facial expressions.. perhaps i've watched the wrong films. i find her interpretation so intelligent - but, i am a fairly simple minded pianist.

Yes! The word "intelligent" seems so fitting to describe Angela.

I also can't seem to find any vids in which her facial expressions are "over-the-top". Amant, could you clarify by giving us a link to one of such performances?

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Originally Posted by Amant
I like some of Hewitt's Baroque piano works... I find her interpretations a bit lacking, (preferring Gould & Guida). But, I find her facial expressions over-the-top and very distracting...
What do you find particularly lacking in her interpretations? Her facial expressions really bother you? I never even noticed... Have you ever seen (or heard) Gould perform? If you find her expressions distracting, I'm surprised you tolerate Gould.

She's not my favorite pianist by any means, but I think she is a fine musician.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKx7ePuIsi0

Here's Angela Hewitt performing Bach Prelude and Fugue in F sharp major (BWV 882). I think she resembles a young Queen Elizabeth. She's quite regal! If only I could articulate Bach like she can! I'd love to see her perform someday! I also wonder who she studied with and who are her students?

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i really like Angela's Bach and haven't noticed any facial expressions.. perhaps i've watched the wrong films. i find her interpretation so intelligent - but, i am a fairly simple minded pianist.

Yes! The word "intelligent" seems so fitting to describe Angela.

I also can't seem to find any vids in which her facial expressions are "over-the-top". Amant, could you clarify by giving us a link to one of such performances?


I agree, her approach is studied, intelligent & elegant but for me there is something lacking (maybe a spark of some sort?) I agree with a previous post that finds her vanilla.

Now, regarding her face, here's a couple which are just too much for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAeLjliS1LY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O40CSWiqDkw
(in that last one, shot as a reflection off the shiny lid - so it appears staged, choreographed and contrived: what not, with those upraised eyes as if she awakening from a petite mal epileptic seizure.)

For comparison, Argerich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mFDXNODNyc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSEwfqs-VM
(IMO, Argerich shows passionate emotion but in a non-distracting way. For me, Argerich has a quiet, perhaps even serene, intensity.)

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I like some of Hewitt's Baroque piano works... I find her interpretations a bit lacking, (preferring Gould & Guida). But, I find her facial expressions over-the-top and very distracting...
What do you find particularly lacking in her interpretations? Her facial expressions really bother you? I never even noticed... Have you ever seen (or heard) Gould perform? If you find her expressions distracting, I'm surprised you tolerate Gould.

She's not my favorite pianist by any means, but I think she is a fine musician.

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Yes, she is a fine musician and articulates well. As said before, I enjoy her Couperin & Rameau. But her Bach; for me there is something lacking. Perhaps a deficient degree of forcefulness & aggressiveness in attacking passages ala Tureck, Gould, or even Argerich playing that Partitia in the youtube segment posted above. BTW, I have the same knock with Schiff. Hewitt & Schiff are too passive for me. They always play it safe.

Re: Gould. I enjoy his forceful iconoclastic playing. He doesn't play it safe. Sometimes he succeeds, sometime he fails, but he is still fresh. I get a kick out of him. For anyone else it would be irksome but his hum-alongs turn 2 part inventions into 3 parts, and so on. How do you manage to capture that on a piano-disc system?

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Originally Posted by Amant

Now, regarding her face, here's a couple which are just too much for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAeLjliS1LY
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O40CSWiqDkw
(in that last one, shot as a reflection off the shiny lid - so it appears staged, choreographed and contrived: what not, with those upraised eyes as if she awakening from a petite mal epileptic seizure)

Amant: The videos you cite are instructional videos Ms Hewitt made at the Fazioli factory. In an instructional video the setting is not so formal and one may exaggerate to make a point. Those are not performance videos. Take a look at her real performance videos on Youtube and see if you feel the same way about her facial expressions. Here:





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I love Bach on a harpsidhord (and tracker organs) But Ms. Hewitt (again, among others) makes a great case for the piano. Each voice can be brought out as needed, given the dynamics of the piano. I didn't understand this until I started to seriously study Bach.


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I prefer Hewitt to Gould any day for Bach or anyone else. It's also easier for me to stomache since she isn't nearly as pompous! wink

I actually listened to her Chopin nocturnes the other day and found I was pleasantly surprised. I thought she was some sort of Baroque specialist but it seems she's not quite half-bad with Romantic music either (although I still like Ashkenazy and Ohlsson more for the nocturnes).


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I love Bach on a harpsidhord (and tracker organs) But Ms. Hewitt (again, among others) makes a great case for the piano. Each voice can be brought out as needed, given the dynamics of the piano. I didn't understand this until I started to seriously study Bach.


Agreed. As stated before: "I wish there were more youtubes from master pianists describing their techniques and approaches ala Hewitt's excerpts."

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Originally Posted by jazzyprof
Originally Posted by Amant

Hewitt's "Bach Performance on the Piano" excerpts are very good, (but gosh-darn, only if they didn't show her painful facial expressions they would be better). I wish there were more youtubes from master pianists describing their techniques and approaches ala Hewitt's excerpts.

I have Hewitt's dvd set "Bach Performance on the Piano" and I absolutely love watching her. I find her facial expressions quite engaging. She seems to be so emotionally involved with the music that she just can't help herself. That is the power of Bach's music if one truly understands it and feels the underlying passion. Actually I find Ms Hewitt quite pretty in an elegant, old world sort of way. Hmm, maybe I have a crush on her. smile

At a master class of hers where she was helping some high school students with Beethoven sonatas, she explained to one student that a solo performer must be an actor, and should learn to assume facial expressions and physical postures that help to convey the music's moods. I don't remember her exact words. It was something like, we can't help having some kind of facial expressions, and we're better off managing them deliberately.

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