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Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties #1262618
09/04/09 08:04 PM
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Hi, I just purchased the Kawai CA51. When I purchased it, I really only cared about the sound, feel (the wood keys feel much better than the plastic), and looks (My wife cared most about the looks)

Anyways, now that I have it, I am starting to get interested in the features. One feature I was intrigued by was the USB port. Unfortunately, there isn't much instructions in the manual.

Is it possible on this piano to download midi files from the computer and have them play on the CA51? Or is this USB/Midi port just for playing piano and recording on your computer?

Again, I'm a novice and a newbee, so take it easy on me.

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Re: Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties [Re: right-here-i-say] #1263691
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Hello right-here-i-say, I believe my response in a separate thread should address this query, however for clarification, the USB connector on the back of your CA51 is intended for sending/receiving MIDI data to/from a computer.

After connecting the instrument to your computer, the notes you play on the keyboard can be recorded using computer sequencing software such as Cubase etc. You can also use the keyboard to control virtual instrument software, allowing for a vast selection of instrument sounds to be played.

It is possible to download MIDI files from the internet and use the computer to play them back through the CA51, however please be aware that the CA51 does not feature the full GM/GM2 (General MIDI) sound set, thus some MIDI files that call upon these voices may sound a little strange.

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James
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Re: Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties [Re: Kawai James] #1263744
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Thanks James for the info! I appreciate it. It is funny that I purchased this for sound/looks/feel and now that I have it I am interested in all of the features. I remember telling the salesperson I didn't care about them. smile

Are there instructions anywhere to play midi files on the computer through the CA51? (even considering it may not sound perfect) I've connected my laptop to the CA51, and the only thing that happened was that it said the driver was loaded successfully. Nothing else happened.

I guess the next question would be, couldn't I use the record button when playing through (if I wanted to save it to the CA51)

Thanks,

Doug

Re: Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties [Re: right-here-i-say] #1283085
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Have you considered VSTi for playing MIDI files? There are free hosts and plugins.

It’s a bit strange to use piano as a music player. You’ll need piano’s amps and speakers for the main purpose.

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Re: Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties [Re: Nikola Tulimirovic] #1291925
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I don't know what VSTi is. I checked it out on wikipedia but not sure I understand it.

Yeah, it is strange, I agree. I just thought it would be cool to download some songs onto the piano. We use the piano to play songs while we are cleaning/painting/relaxing, etc. Sure, I guess it is the same as a CD player, but it would be cool to have the piano playing some cool songs.

Re: Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties [Re: right-here-i-say] #1292224
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Basically, VSTi are virtual instruments that can be loaded through an interface on its own (like pianoteq) or through a sequencer like Cubase (Sampletank)

I'm personnally using Cubase and sampletank2.
How does it work?
After you setup both software, in Cubase you have to create a midi track, assign this track to sampletank(for example) and choose the VST instrument you want to play.

It can be boring to load everything since the boot of the computer until you can play (like 5-10 min), but trust me, the difference is there. Velocity of VSTi can reach like 100 different levels. For example, on yamaha clavinova CLP320, there's 3 different samples for each key. On garritan steinway (it's a VSTIi, just have a hearing on their website), there's 1200 samples for each key !!

Quality is not as the same level, you can play a lot of different instruments and change parameters everywhere. But it requires a decent computer with some RAM and with nice soundcard and speakers.
For a composer, it's really the best choice. For a casual player, piano native sound can be far enough depends on the DP quality.
But if you have a decent computer give it a try, it's really worth it !

Re: Kawai CA51 midi/USB capabilties [Re: frat] #1292245
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Frat answered. I just have to add something... If you don’t have a powerful computer, you can still use these instruments to convert MIDI to MP3 or some other format. What Frat was writing about is mostly real-time playing through a sequencer.


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