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#1287353 - 10/15/09 06:32 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: Victor25]  
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Sorry but now I feel hate or love. That is the what I mean.
I like it anymore, good discussion. You are God of Beethoven. What is the correct playing of this Sonata? Show me a Record of Ludwig van Beethoven, than I will agree with him.


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#1287359 - 10/15/09 06:43 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: Chiefci]  
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Originally Posted by Chiefci
Sorry but now I feel hate or love. That is the what I mean.
I like it anymore, good discussion. You are God of Beethoven. What is the correct playing of this Sonata? Show me a Record of Ludwig van Beethoven, than I will agree with him.


So as a Beethoven expert, you think your playing is closest to that of Beethoven's own? Or just "better than Barenboim"?

#1287364 - 10/15/09 06:59 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: mr_roberts_z]  
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Chiefci, did you think beethoven wrote those note durations, the timing, the rests, the dynamic indications, all just so you could do whatever you liked? Or might those be written so that you could understand how he intends you to play it?


Currently working on: Perfecting the Op 2/1, studying the 27/2 last movement. Chopin Nocturne 32/2 and Posth. C#m, 'Raindrop' prelude and Etude 10/9
Repetoire: Beethoven op 2/1, 10/1(1st, 2nd), 13, 14/1, 27/1(1st, 2nd), 27/2, 28(1st, 2nd), 31/2(1st, 3rd), 49/1, 49/2, 78(1st), 79, 90, 101(1st)
#1287404 - 10/15/09 08:12 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: Victor25]  
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Yes, I think Beethoven is an Cyclon, and he like what other people play. I like it too. So listen and open your ears.


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#1287420 - 10/15/09 08:34 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: Chiefci]  
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Now. sorry Im am very angry. I am blocked in Piano Network.
That is not ok. I feel not guilty.
Till you can see may Playlist. Dany Boy is very good.


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#1287427 - 10/15/09 08:39 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: Chiefci]  
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Originally Posted by Chiefci
Yes, I think Beethoven is an Cyclon, and he like what other people play. I like it too. So listen and open your ears.


Actually he was known for not liking all interpretations of his music. That is very likely the main reason why he and Johann Nepomuk Hummel were no longer friends.

I'm not saying he would beat you up after playing the pathetique like that for him, but a slap and a 'bist du krank in deine kopf' would be appropriate.


Currently working on: Perfecting the Op 2/1, studying the 27/2 last movement. Chopin Nocturne 32/2 and Posth. C#m, 'Raindrop' prelude and Etude 10/9
Repetoire: Beethoven op 2/1, 10/1(1st, 2nd), 13, 14/1, 27/1(1st, 2nd), 27/2, 28(1st, 2nd), 31/2(1st, 3rd), 49/1, 49/2, 78(1st), 79, 90, 101(1st)
#1287436 - 10/15/09 08:50 AM Re: Advice for Beethoven's Piano Sonata no 27 op 90 [Re: Victor25]  
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Thread closed.

Signal-to-noise ratio is making my brain hurt.


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