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#1285963 - 10/13/09 08:47 AM Roland and Yamaha DP  
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I'm interested about CLP-340 and HP-207
What is the advantages and disadvantages from each product?
Are those in the same level of DP?
What is the Kawai product compared with those products?
So, what is your suggestions about that products?




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#1286012 - 10/13/09 10:12 AM Re: Roland and Yamaha DP [Re: dim]  
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For my personal taste, I would buy a Kawai CN42. Great DP.

#1286208 - 10/13/09 02:19 PM Re: Roland and Yamaha DP [Re: gerardo1000]  
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The HP207 has much better specs than the CLP340. The HP207 is the top DP from Roland and should be compared to the Yamaha CLP380. With the intro of their new CLP3xx series Yamaha has dramatically increased the prices of their higher end DPs (at least in Germany). Before, the CLP 280 and the HP207 were about the same prize. The Kawai to compare is the CA91.

Compared to the CLP380, I personally would go for the HP207, unless I had too much money.

#1286239 - 10/13/09 03:05 PM Re: Roland and Yamaha DP [Re: gerardo1000]  
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Originally Posted by gerardo1000
For my personal taste, I would buy a Kawai CN42. Great DP.

Hi Gerardo, I am considering the CN42 but cannot find it locally. Was your recommendation based on personal experience with the piano? If so, would you please share your opinion on its sound through speakers and the touch, compared to other pianos you tried?

Thanks,
Tony

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#1286662 - 10/14/09 08:53 AM Re: Roland and Yamaha DP [Re: Tony Lau]  
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Tony, I played both the Yamaha Clavinovas (intermediate model, around $ 2,900 here in the States) and the Kawai CN 32 and CN 42 (CN32 is around 1,900 and cn 42 I think a few hundreds more here in the States) and although I found both Yamahas and Kawai to be great pianos, I was surprised by the quality of the sound, feel and features of the Kawai compared to the price. To my ears, the Kawai played and sounded as good as the Clavinova who had a higher price tag. More over, to my eyes, the look of the Kawai is more elegant. But this is a personal opinion: I would be very happy with both of them (my current piano is a Yamaha YDP223, cost $ 1,500.00, a bit old technically but a great work horse).
I have never tried a Roland console piano, therefore I cannot judge this brand. However I played several stage pianos from Roland, including expensive ones (over $ 2,000) and I was not particularly impressed by the sound, I found that they did not sound exactly like an acoustic piano (which is what I look for).

#1287204 - 10/14/09 10:38 PM Re: Roland and Yamaha DP [Re: gerardo1000]  
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I tried all three of these. I didn't actually like the action of the Kawai CA91 (it had been widely touted as having the superior action of the three) and felt the sound was inferior to both the Yamaha and the Roland --- I only heard it through the default speakers and not using headphones, which can make a big difference.

I liked the Yamaha quite a lot for both action and sound, thought it sounded better than the Roland, but it cost considerably more than the Roland.

None of these three really compare to a decent grand, IMO --- I didn't used to think so but after playing on one for a while in school I realized the DP isn't a substitute -- the feel *is* different, the variety in sound is not essentially infinite because there's always a limit to the number of samplings a DP has. Better than a crappy (or crappily maintained) upright (my school has a lot of those too) but not as good as a nice grand. A heck of a lot cheaper though smile

Ended up with the HP 207 and I'm quite happy with it, though eventually I'd love to pair it with a real grand when I can actually practice without headphones at home / have the money to own one.

YMMV and this is all only my opinion, of course. Good luck.


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#1287777 - 10/15/09 06:33 PM Re: Roland and Yamaha DP [Re: caracantabile]  
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Recent purchased a HP207 myself. Obviously no DP is a replacement for a fine acoustic instrument, but it has it's advantages in the pricing and ability to use headphones.

In any case, I really enjoy the sound and feel of the HP207, it's a quality product.

Ray


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