2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.9 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Petrof Pianos
Petrof Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Karsten Collection
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Who's Online Now
25 members (Greta99, Alan B, Herculius, GlennF, gwing, 36251, beeboss, Harpuia, 6 invisible), 364 guests, and 433 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 5 of 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Piano*Dad #1286633 10/14/09 08:02 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 94
V
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
V
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 94
AJF:

Maybe I needed some sleep, too. My first post was not indignant - it was ironic. My second post did not thank you for stating the obvious, it merely acknowledged that you stated the obvious. Wealthy people have all kinds of things in their homes that they never use, like Faberge pieces and pianos. God bless them and who cares?

I agree totally with Numerian. The Filthy Rich would go for exquisite, one of a kind pianos, something rarer and more elite than Steinway.

Is a Steinway D a Whopper or a Triple with Cheese?

Last edited by vandyboy; 10/14/09 08:05 AM.

1902 Steinway A, Ebony Art Case
(ad int) Petrof Pianos
Petrof Pianos
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Numerian #1286635 10/14/09 08:04 AM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,146
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,146
Hmmm. Faziolis aren't for people 'who may actually want to play the piano?' I guess I learn something every day.


Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Piano*Dad #1286649 10/14/09 08:26 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,123
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,123
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Numerian #1286654 10/14/09 08:32 AM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,664
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,664
On second thought, if I were filthy rich, maybe I'd want one of the brands that wouldn't even make tier 5, or maybe an old upright that had seen better days..

That would show off I had the money to maintain them? smile

Ken


Ken

Hammond Organ Technician
Piano Torturer
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Ken Knapp #1286666 10/14/09 08:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
If I were filthy rich? There's an 1840 something Pleyel upright that Chopin actually picked up for one of his pupils and signed. It's in playable condition and has an impeccable provenance. It's being sold by a descendant if anyone will ever meet the price. That would be a real trophy.


Slow down and do it right.
[Linked Image]
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Ken Knapp #1286682 10/14/09 09:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Originally Posted by Ken Knapp
Or an Ellenburger? laugh

Ken


you beat me to it.




accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Numerian #1286684 10/14/09 09:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Originally Posted by Numerian
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.


yes, but nice to think that the sultans are doing their part to keep Fazioli in business


accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Numerian #1286696 10/14/09 09:41 AM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 932
R
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
R
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 932
Originally Posted by Numerian
Really rich people would find this whole conversation amusing. The last thing a billionaire wants is a plebian instrument like a Steinway, seen everywhere in concert halls and on television, and owned by middle class people.


Steinways are for the millionaires then! wink

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Roxane #1286711 10/14/09 09:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
And cheap crooks like Madoff. He didn't even have a big Steinway.


Slow down and do it right.
[Linked Image]
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Roxane #1286712 10/14/09 09:55 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,077
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,077
I would guess that the overwhelming majority of those people who see a Fazioli never heard of the brand. The same can't be said about Steinway. So, the true quality of a brand isn't directly related to its reputation or "status" value.


Piano Industry Consultant

Contributing Editor & Consultant - Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer

Jasons Music
Maryland/DC/No. VA
Family Owned and Operated Since 1937.

www.jasonsmusic.com
My postings, unless stated otherwise, are my personal opinions, not those of my clients.
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Steve Cohen #1286716 10/14/09 09:57 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
The megarich sheiks probably have advisors to make sure that get The Very Best whatever.


Slow down and do it right.
[Linked Image]
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Roxane #1286719 10/14/09 09:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,123
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,123
Originally Posted by Roxane


Steinways are for the millionaires then!


Sadly, that is probably true, at least for new D's bought at retail.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Numerian #1286726 10/14/09 10:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 124
J
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
J
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 124
Originally Posted by Numerian
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.


Proudly show the deep string dents on the hammers! They are your batches of honour.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
-Frycek #1286784 10/14/09 11:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 992
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 992
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Does that make Burger King the Bosendorfer of Burgers?

(Just drawing their fire.)


Speaking of pianos and hamburgers...

So this hungry obnoxious drunk with boundary issues goes into a bar in Berlin with Chang,his male offspring. He goes up to the bar and rudely grabs the stein full of beer which is sitting in front of Jung Zuki, the bartender, who happens to be his brother in law. Jung says, “Oh no, it’s Steingraeber and Sohne.” Steingraeber says “Se, Jung, quick, make me a Pramberger with some Sauter-kraut on the side, and make sure it doesn’t Schimmel funny like the last one you made me. This time grill it outside on the Weber.” Jung says “Kawai do you have to be such a jerk, and such a Hardman to please? If you don’t leave right now, I’m going to Chase you and Young Chang there all the way to Bohemia, Samick you on the head, pick up a rock and Estonia so you’ll never have Essex with my sister Su zuki again, and then throw you in the Pearl River. Then, and only then, May Berlin finally have some peace!


1995 Baldwin L grand
2001 Baldwin Hamilton upright
Yamaha S90 synthesizer
www.larrylarsonpiano.com
YouTubeChannel www.youtube.com/LarryLarsonPiano
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
John Chan #1286786 10/14/09 11:45 AM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 197
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 197
one fact that might surprise some here - is that a Steinway concert grand has a retail price that is somewhere in the middle, when all 20 or so concert grand prices are compared. It is nowhere near the most expensive concert grand being manufactured today. So from a "purely a trophy" perspective, our young Canadian's implication breaks down.


Bob Snyder
Senior District Manager
Steinway & Sons

rsnyder@steinway.com
www.steinway.com
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Numerian #1286814 10/14/09 12:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,146
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,146
Originally Posted by Numerian
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.


You know, if I had bothered to remember (or to check) which piano you owned, I would have realized how silly my post sounded. smile

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Piano*Dad #1286829 10/14/09 12:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,123
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,123
No offense taken Piano*Dad. I always enjoy your posts. Just because I own a Fazioli doesn't mean I can't make fun of them as trophy instruments.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
Larry Larson #1286834 10/14/09 12:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,921
Originally Posted by Larry Larson
Originally Posted by -Frycek
Does that make Burger King the Bosendorfer of Burgers?

(Just drawing their fire.)


Speaking of pianos and hamburgers...

So this hungry obnoxious drunk with boundary issues goes into a bar in Berlin with Chang,his male offspring.


grin thumb


Slow down and do it right.
[Linked Image]
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
-Frycek #1286854 10/14/09 01:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
Proud Steinway owner chiming in here to say I bought my instrument after test driving *hundreds* of different pianos over the course of five years! I love my piano because of the way it responds to ME, not the name on the fallboard.

I hate these let's bash Steinway threads.


There are no shortcuts to any place worth going. - Beverly Sills
Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos?
plays88skeys #1286857 10/14/09 01:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,503
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,503
steinway grands are very often quite wonderful musical instruments in ADDITION to being trophy pianos. smile


piqué

now in paperback:
[Linked Image]

Grand Obsession: A Piano Odyssey
Page 5 of 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11

Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
News from the Piano World
Where Did The Buttons Go?!
----------------------
Our April 2020 Newsletter Available Online Now...
The Piano World During the Pandemic!
----------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
KDP110 vs. cn series/clavinova
by almo82 - 08/11/20 02:58 AM
Piano Practice/Exercises For Adult Learners
by onaiplatigid - 08/11/20 01:34 AM
1892 Broadwood & Sons Grand
by shaycave - 08/10/20 11:11 PM
Kontakt spaz attack
by MacMacMac - 08/10/20 10:52 PM
Talk me out of Embertone Walker 1955
by Harpuia - 08/10/20 09:51 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics200,839
Posts2,990,484
Members98,099
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2020 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4