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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Piano*Dad] #1286633
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AJF:

Maybe I needed some sleep, too. My first post was not indignant - it was ironic. My second post did not thank you for stating the obvious, it merely acknowledged that you stated the obvious. Wealthy people have all kinds of things in their homes that they never use, like Faberge pieces and pianos. God bless them and who cares?

I agree totally with Numerian. The Filthy Rich would go for exquisite, one of a kind pianos, something rarer and more elite than Steinway.

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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Numerian] #1286635
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Hmmm. Faziolis aren't for people 'who may actually want to play the piano?' I guess I learn something every day.


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I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Numerian] #1286654
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On second thought, if I were filthy rich, maybe I'd want one of the brands that wouldn't even make tier 5, or maybe an old upright that had seen better days..

That would show off I had the money to maintain them? smile

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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Ken Knapp] #1286666
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If I were filthy rich? There's an 1840 something Pleyel upright that Chopin actually picked up for one of his pupils and signed. It's in playable condition and has an impeccable provenance. It's being sold by a descendant if anyone will ever meet the price. That would be a real trophy.


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Ken Knapp] #1286682
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Originally Posted by Ken Knapp
Or an Ellenburger? laugh

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you beat me to it.




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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Numerian] #1286684
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Originally Posted by Numerian
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.


yes, but nice to think that the sultans are doing their part to keep Fazioli in business


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Numerian] #1286696
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Originally Posted by Numerian
Really rich people would find this whole conversation amusing. The last thing a billionaire wants is a plebian instrument like a Steinway, seen everywhere in concert halls and on television, and owned by middle class people.


Steinways are for the millionaires then! wink

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Roxane] #1286711
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And cheap crooks like Madoff. He didn't even have a big Steinway.


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Roxane] #1286712
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I would guess that the overwhelming majority of those people who see a Fazioli never heard of the brand. The same can't be said about Steinway. So, the true quality of a brand isn't directly related to its reputation or "status" value.


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Steve Cohen] #1286716
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The megarich sheiks probably have advisors to make sure that get The Very Best whatever.


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Roxane] #1286719
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Originally Posted by Roxane


Steinways are for the millionaires then!


Sadly, that is probably true, at least for new D's bought at retail.

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Originally Posted by Numerian
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.


Proudly show the deep string dents on the hammers! They are your batches of honour.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: -Frycek] #1286784
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Originally Posted by -Frycek
Does that make Burger King the Bosendorfer of Burgers?

(Just drawing their fire.)


Speaking of pianos and hamburgers...

So this hungry obnoxious drunk with boundary issues goes into a bar in Berlin with Chang,his male offspring. He goes up to the bar and rudely grabs the stein full of beer which is sitting in front of Jung Zuki, the bartender, who happens to be his brother in law. Jung says, “Oh no, it’s Steingraeber and Sohne.” Steingraeber says “Se, Jung, quick, make me a Pramberger with some Sauter-kraut on the side, and make sure it doesn’t Schimmel funny like the last one you made me. This time grill it outside on the Weber.” Jung says “Kawai do you have to be such a jerk, and such a Hardman to please? If you don’t leave right now, I’m going to Chase you and Young Chang there all the way to Bohemia, Samick you on the head, pick up a rock and Estonia so you’ll never have Essex with my sister Su zuki again, and then throw you in the Pearl River. Then, and only then, May Berlin finally have some peace!


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: John Chan] #1286786
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one fact that might surprise some here - is that a Steinway concert grand has a retail price that is somewhere in the middle, when all 20 or so concert grand prices are compared. It is nowhere near the most expensive concert grand being manufactured today. So from a "purely a trophy" perspective, our young Canadian's implication breaks down.


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Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Numerian] #1286814
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Originally Posted by Numerian
I do play my Fazioli every day and it allows me to make marvelous music. But I am tempted to cover up the fallboard name from time to time lest people think I bought it only as a trophy piano.

It is sad to think though that there are seven of them in Brunei only on display and never played.


You know, if I had bothered to remember (or to check) which piano you owned, I would have realized how silly my post sounded. smile

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No offense taken Piano*Dad. I always enjoy your posts. Just because I own a Fazioli doesn't mean I can't make fun of them as trophy instruments.

Re: Are Steinways just trophy pianos? [Re: Larry Larson] #1286834
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Does that make Burger King the Bosendorfer of Burgers?

(Just drawing their fire.)


Speaking of pianos and hamburgers...

So this hungry obnoxious drunk with boundary issues goes into a bar in Berlin with Chang,his male offspring.


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Proud Steinway owner chiming in here to say I bought my instrument after test driving *hundreds* of different pianos over the course of five years! I love my piano because of the way it responds to ME, not the name on the fallboard.

I hate these let's bash Steinway threads.


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steinway grands are very often quite wonderful musical instruments in ADDITION to being trophy pianos. smile


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