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casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL #1281594
10/06/09 06:53 AM
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I am hesitate to buy casio px 330 or cdp 200R. casio px 330 is released Jul, 2009. cdp 200R is released in 2008.

It seems that for the general functions, cdp200R is better because it provides more functions. But for the piano function, px330 is better.

Now I really want to know: Is there is big difference between Linear Morphing AiF sound source( used in AP-220 AP-420 AP-620 PX-130 PX-330 PX-730 PX-830) and Dual-element AHL sound source( only used in cdp 200r)?

Below are the main difference between these 2 models:
-----Price---------------------
px330: 650 euro
cdp 200R: 475 euro

-----Sound Source--------------
px330: Linear Morphing AiF
cdp 200R:Dual-element AHL

-----key action----------------
px330:Tri-sensor“ Scaled Hammer action
cdp 200R:Scaled Hammer Action

-----Polyphony (maximum)-------
px330: 128
cdp 200R: 48

-----Tones---------------------
px330: Total 250 built-in tones
cdp 200R: 670 built-in tones

more difference can be found in
http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/files/emi/Catalogue2.pdf

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Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: emukang] #1281631
10/06/09 09:08 AM
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Hi emukang,

Welcome to the forums.

I have not seen the CDP200 here in the United States and the stores I have gone to do not have the PX330/130 out yet, so I can't compare the feel of the two. In the case of the CDP100, there was no comparison between it and the Privia line, the Privia line came out ahead across the board. The touch, sound and features of the Privia were all better IMO to the CDP100.

To answer your question about the Dual element AHL sound source - this sounds like an improved version of the Dual element HL sound source in the CDP100 and I believe it may have been the sound source in the PX300 and PX100. The PX330 and PX130 both come with four layers plus the linear morphing feature which interpolates between the layers so it should be way closer to an acoustic.

You've missed a lot of important features above.

The PX330 has line in and out. The CDP200 only has line in.

The PX330 will support two stand alone pedals, or three pedals with the optional stand and pedal bar. The CDP200 only supports one pedal.

There are a couple of other features only available on the CDP200, for example the Arpeggiator.

I'm not impressed with the extra tones on my Casio PX310, so I'm not sure I would personally consider the CDP200 additional tones when choosing between the two.

Rich


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Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: DragonPianoPlayer] #1281643
10/06/09 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DragonPianoPlayer
Hi emukang,

In the case of the CDP100, there was no comparison between it and the Privia line, the Privia line came out ahead across the board. The touch, sound and features of the Privia were all better IMO to the CDP100.

As far as the piano emulation, I can confirm this: I tried a couple of times a CDP100 and a PX-120 and the second one was far better in terms of touch; also the sound seemed to me quite better.

I wasn't interested in the other sounds, so I didn't even test them...

Where I live I haven't seen a new PX (130 or 330, the sound and touch should be the same) yet, but reading the specs it should be a step up in terms both of sound quality and touch.


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Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: plobotta] #1281660
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Thanks for the answers from DragonPianoPlayer and plobottakind. I just got the email from Mike Martin----Casio's director of marketing for electronic musical instruments. To my surprise, he gave me a reply very quickly, this also give me a very good impression of Casio:)

Below is his answer
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This is a very significant different in sound quality between a PX-330 and CDP-200R. The four layer piano sample in the PX-330 much more dynamic and realistic than what is offered in the CDP-200R. That along with the additional polyphony, pedal inputs, line outputs and more make the PX-330 the flagship in our 88-note "portable" piano line.

Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: DragonPianoPlayer] #1281680
10/06/09 10:32 AM
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I just fiddled a bit with the CDP200 at the Casio Showroom a while ago. The CDP200 is definitely for people who want lots of bells and whistles. But I don't have a comprehensive list of features for both so I can't really compare. All I can say is that the new PX-n330 series have a more expressive sound and the touch and keyboard action is much improved. I think the keyboard action alone is enough to warrant the extra price. In fact, I own a PX-720 but I'm planning to buy a PX-830 soon as a secondary DP because I like the improvements.


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Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: marimorimo] #1281780
10/06/09 01:25 PM
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Emukang,
The PX-330 has a much better paino sound than the CDP 200. The AIF sound source is far superior in both sound and polyphony to the CDP 200. Also the piano sound on the PX-330 is a 4 layer sample. The CDP 200 uses the sound source that Casio employs in it's keyboard workstations (ie WK, CTK series). In fact, the features on the CDP 200 are the same as what is on the WK 500. The major difference is that the CDP 200 has weighted keys vs the WK 500. As far as the piano sample it is only a 2 layer sample as that is what is used with that sound chip. One more thing to consider is the touch. The CDP 200 uses a different keybed than what is used on the PX-330. It tends to have noisier action than the new PX330/130. The keys tend to clack when they return to their rests. I have recently played both the 330 and 130 and like the action of the 330/130 even over last year's PX120/320. There is no clacking and the keys feel solid and return much faster. Don't think you can go wrong with a PX-330 and highly recommend it.

Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: galaxy4t] #1282176
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thanks everyone, based on your comment, I will definately buy px330.

Re: casio px 330 or cdp 200R:Linear Morphing VS Dual-element AHL [Re: emukang] #1282215
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Please, when you get it, let us know your impressions!
Ciao
Paolo

Last edited by plobotta; 10/07/09 07:11 AM.

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