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HP-207 and RG-3 #1276609
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Hi,

Despite the large price difference between the 207 and the RG3, does the RG3 actually sound better than the 207? Or is it just for its polished ebony looks and the baby grand appearance?

The RG3 has a lower power rating than the 207 (40W x 2 vs. 60W x 2). Now I know wattage isn't everything when it comes to sound quality, but has anyone had the opportunity to compare the 2 pianos side by side and comment on their relative audio qualities ?

FWIW, the 207 also has more features than the RG3, like more playable instruments, better LCD displays, etc. So paying more for the RG3 and getting less features AND less sound quality seems hard to justify.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mr_ed] #1276699
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I have the RG-3.

Yes you are right, the 207 has a few more features and sounds. The RG-3 has quite a basic sound roster, no organ sounds. The user interface is not that easy to use either as its very minimalist. The Rg-3 is focused on the piano with few bells and whistles.

Sound quality is better on the RG-3, have compared them side by side and seems to project it better and have good spaciousness. The speakers are better, the bass is excellent (makes the pedals vibrate!!!) and it sounds beautiful. Don't worry about the power rating, its damn loud if you turn it up.

Personally I got the RG3 because I loved the look, it didn't cost me much more than the 207 (found an amazing deal on it) and I just wanted the best piano substitute i could find in a small space.

If you have to pay full price for it, its not much bang for your buck. You could try the rg-1 instead. I would say the high cost of the RG-3 is due to the cabinetry, it's beautifully made and the finish is as good as on an acoustic.

207 is far better value for money.

Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: bobbo] #1276825
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Thanks for the feedback, bobbo. For me, the sweet deal on the RG-3 just went away (the floor demo unit was just sold). So there's no real reason for me to consider the RG-3 anymore frown

So the next question I have for you is - have you played the LX-10 side by side with the 207? Is it worth $1000 (USD) extra?? My understanding is that between the LX10 and the 207, there are no feature differences, and the only difference is that the LX10 has better sound and also a mixed satin/polished ebony finish... does that justify the $1000 difference??

To me, the HP207's finish leaves a lot to be desired. The satin mahogany looks dull and plasticky. The LX10's look is acceptable. Would have much preferred a full PE finish for sure.

Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mr_ed] #1276829
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The hp207 black satin is actually very pretty IMO.
And also IMO, the 207 is good enough (and pricey enough).
The LX10 is really not a revolution compared to the 207.
But if the piano is to be displayed in in a nice corner of your living room and you can afford the LX10, then it's a different story. I tried the LX10 back to back with the 207 and did not notice a better sound (maybe a little, but what I noticed the most was that it was prettier).

Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mariaristotle] #1276913
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I totally agree that there is no technological advancement between the 207 and the LX10. They appear to be basically the same piano in different housing with a different speaker system. Hard to justify the price difference, but from my recollection, the 207's satin finish bothered me. I saw the Mahogany finish though, and not the Satin Black, so perhaps black may appear better.




Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mr_ed] #1276926
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I don't really care for the 207 in satin black. It looks dull to me, like a Formica countertop. I thought the Mahogany (which I have) was the least offensive finish.

You're right about the LX-10. The only differences between it and the 207 are the cabinet and speakers. The extra speakers do help the sound, but the price difference seems a bit excessive to me. In fact, the LX-10 is basically the same price as the Yamaha CLP-380, which has similar features and an even more elaborate speaker system. The HP-207 vs. the CLP-380 is a bargain; the LX-10 not so much so.

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I could not agree more. When I tried them both at the store, the difference in price seemed to originate from the difference in cabinetry mainly. It does look very nice, but so expensive!!!!

Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mariaristotle] #1276941
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But back to the RG-3.

I've not tried one. But I did try an RG-1. That was the finest sounding DP I've ever laid ears on.

The $7000 tag price was way too high for me, so I didn't spend much time with it. But the sound was superb. I'm guessing the RG-3 is even better. I wish I could have one!

Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: MacMacMac] #1276999
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
But back to the RG-3.

I've not tried one. But I did try an RG-1. That was the finest sounding DP I've ever laid ears on.

The $7000 tag price was way too high for me, so I didn't spend much time with it. But the sound was superb. I'm guessing the RG-3 is even better. I wish I could have one!


which makes me even more sad that I let that deal slip away. I should have jumped on it sooner.


Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mr_ed] #1277093
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Ed sorry to hear you lost out on a good deal.


The LX-10 looks like an RG3/207 in a mini upright cabinet and i'm sure the electronics will be virtually the same, same keyboard, speakers and sound samples. I wouldn't complain about having one.

One reason I didn't get the 207 was I really don't like the finish, here in europe I can only get hold of it in this rosewood finish or this horrible beechwood look which reminds me of flatpack furniture or cheap spinet pianos. The polished ebony version costs a fortune and simply isn't worth the premium.



Here's my RG3 in its full polished shinyness
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Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: bobbo] #1277277
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Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: mariaristotle] #1277446
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Hi all people,

I'm new to the forum and this is my first pos. I would like to thank all the people at the forum four their opinions and help.
I have compared the HP-207 (polished ebony finish) and LX-10 side by side several hours and there is in fact no internal technical differences between them. The only differences are cabinet and speaker system. The LX-10 let the sound float around you in a way the HP-207 can't. This is specially noticeable with the LX-10's lid open. At the first moment it may be difficult to look for sonic differences, since the samples and name of presets are exactly the same, but after some time I could hear better bass response and more life in the LX-10's sounds. Having two extra speakers near your head recreate the experience of having a real resonating sounboard in front of you better than on the HP-207. btw, I think I found a bug on the presets: Tubular Bells, Church Bell an Carillon (Others, 51, 52, 53)sound the same on both HP-207 and LX-10. Anyone can confirm that?

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Remixme

Re: HP-207 and RG-3 [Re: Audiorange] #1277623
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I checked and these three sounds are *extremely* similar, however, there are minor differences if you listen carefully throughout the range. For example, Carillion has a bit more vibrato and Church Bell has a bit more sustain in the Bass range. I think that the similarity is just a consequence of them being closely related sounds.

I agree about the LX-10 speakers. For the price difference, though you could get a pretty impressive external speaker system to attach to your HP-207, wich would be better even than the LX-10 (although not as attractive).

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