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#1276628 - 09/28/09 02:27 PM wow  
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i appreciate this resource. shopping for a digital piano is very difficult. i wrote a previous post comparing two pianos(yamaha clp220 vs. casio ap400, no responses yet). based on my research, it looks like both are older models! my interest in these models was only based on what this dealer had in the showroom. is anyone aware of a resourse to compare models head to head based on function, price, brand reliability..ect. it is hard to compare apples to apples.

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#1276643 - 09/28/09 02:44 PM Re: wow [Re: abbyying]  
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If you look at the first few posts on this thread, you'll see that someone has prepared a spec comparison sheet. It's very comprehensive.

Also, you could run a search (altho' the search function is tricky here) on the forums, or just scroll through the digital piano forum and look for reviews of the models you're interested in.

Another good way is to go to the manufacturer's websites. Casio and Yamaha have good sites to compare their models, with all the specs.

A quicker way is to go to some of the online sellers and look at the keyboards they have for sale, often they'll have reviews as well as all the specs.

You can also go on Amazon and run a search on each keyboard you're interested in. You'll get lots of customer reactions there.

Your best bet is to go to someplace like Guitar Center that has a huge selection of different brands and try them out side by side.

You won't find Clavinolas or the Roland consoles (other than the V), but you can get a good idea of what you want. You might not need to spend as much money as you thought when you went to the dealer.

Just bring a good set of headphones with you, especially if you got to Guitar Center, which is one of the noisiest places on the planet.


#1276646 - 09/28/09 02:48 PM Re: wow [Re: Nikalette]  
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Larry Fine's new supplement now has information on digital pianos. See www.pianobuyer.com

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#1276655 - 09/28/09 02:59 PM Re: wow [Re: DragonPianoPlayer]  
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Thank you. i found that issue with the yamahas. it is hard to find a price online. i have been trying to find a price for the clp 220 (or 320) no luck. i found the casio (ap400) online at walmart, not sure if that is a good or bad thing. looks like for me, price point is the best way to compare the instruments. i am not a player, so i really have no idea how to compare the functions, feel, ect. i really just want the best for the money (1000+??)have good resale value, sound the best and that will be a good start but will allow my kids to transition well, if they really get into the piano and we end up buying a real one.

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#1276690 - 09/28/09 04:18 PM Re: wow [Re: abbyying]  
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CLP model Yamaha pianos are sold through piano dealers and are not advertised on the web, so it is hard to find prices. You are expected to bargain with the dealer when purchasing it, just like you would with an acoustic piano. The Piano Buyer has price ranges that you could use or you can also look at some of the price paid threads on the forum for references.

Unfortunately, you can't expect resale values to hold up on any digital piano.

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#1276722 - 09/28/09 05:09 PM Re: wow [Re: DragonPianoPlayer]  
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Okay, am I going nuts? I though that there was a sticky thread here saying "Read this first" or a thread that had a whole bunch of specs for different digital pianos, now I can't find it.

#1276759 - 09/28/09 06:02 PM Re: wow [Re: Nikalette]  
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No, you're not going nuts because I remember reading it, too. It disappeared some time ago and I haven't had the patience to look for it!


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#1276808 - 09/28/09 07:00 PM Re: wow [Re: Nikalette]  
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If you mean the Google Docs Spreadsheet, that appears to be no longer accessible / maintained:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...ital%20piano%20specs%20(was%20Yamah.html

Here's the May 2009 version of the Excel spreadsheet as HTML: http://home.arcor.de/mdoege/specs/

And here's the Excel file:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qg1zztndwok/Digital%20Piano%20Specs.xls.xlt

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#1276840 - 09/28/09 07:38 PM Re: wow [Re: Martin C. Doege]  
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Those stickies are gone. The member who made them, Horiwinkle, left when he was criticized for his posts telling members how much they should pay for pianos. He packed up his toys and left. The spreadsheet was one of his toys.

You can only go so far with specs anyway, and manufacturers use their own pseudo-scientific names for labeling features and functions, so things can become hopelessly confusing.

Your best bet is to read pianobuyer digital section (link to the right) and do exactly what Nikalette already said--go to music instrument stores like Sam Ash, Guitar Center, or a mom and pop vendor near you to see them and play them. And yes, borrow some good headphones to bring with you.

You don't need to visit piano retailers. The products that are exclusive to them are beyond your price range.

Two good mainstream digital pianos at your pricepoint are the Yamaha P140 at under $1k or the Yamaha P155 at a little over $1k. There certainly are others, but those two are sensible instruments for someone who is becoming a piano student. They are easy to find and will give you a benchmark to compare others.





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