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I agree with you that GHS feels light. I did not care for it when I sampled a YPG 635, and the action was also noisy. I perferred the action on the Casio and would be surprised if the 330 has light action like the Yahama. I agree with BanditHH, that the Privia has better touch than the GHS Yahama uses. I haven't played a 330 yet, but have played two PX-130's. The action feels close to the PX120/320 in my opinion. Comparing it to a P-155 recently, I thought the PX-130 had more resistance, but was solid and responsive.

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I had tried the PX 120/320 before and thought the action was too heavy, it was one of the reasons I got the YPG 635. I don't notice noisiness on the action. I think the 330 action is slightly better than the YPG feels more realistic, but I thought it's lighter than the previous Privia action.

If action was the only issue, then the Privia 130/330 would be better than the YPG, but I would pick the YPG over the 120/320 because they were too heavy for me.

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The Yamaha YPG235 and YPG535 are what Yamaha calls Graded Soft Touch - it is a synth based action. Of this line, only the YPG 635 with Graded Hammer Standard (GHS) is truly a weighted action DP.

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Originally Posted by BanditHH
I interpreted it to mean 3 layers of piano samples, is that different?


Marimorimo:
I believe the confusion here is related to the number of times the original sound was sampled when recorded-4x. It's similar to the way CD players used to be rated when they came out. Some sampled sound at 2x, 4x, 8x, etc. The higher the number the better the reproduction/quality.

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Originally Posted by BanditHH
I interpreted it to mean 3 layers of piano samples, is that different?


Marimorimo:
I believe the confusion here is related to the number of times the original sound was sampled when recorded-4x. It's similar to the way CD players used to be rated when they came out. Some sampled sound at 2x, 4x, 8x, etc. The higher the number the better the reproduction/quality.


Actually the piano sample in the new Privias was recorded at 4 different dynamic levels. As an example: p, mp, mf, f.
These samples are then triggered based on the key velocity. The new engine in the PX-x30 also interpolates the sound between velocity layers so you get smooth transitions, not switches as you change from a soft dynamic to a louder one.

On top of this the new PX-x30's have a new Tri-Sensor keyboard. This ensures that every nuance and detail of what you are playing gets delivered to the sound engine. It also is more effective for capturing faster repeated notes than previous models.


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If anyone is interested I posted a review of the PX-330 on the Guitar Center site.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Casio-PX-330-88-Key-Digital-Keyboard-582722-i1466868.gc

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Do you have a link for the "other PX thread"? I'm new hear and having trouble navigating.


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Mike Martin,
Appreciate the explanation on the sound sampling. And yes, the new PX models are definately more responsive when notes are pressed. I notice the difference from the older Privia I have.

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

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When is the PX-330 video on youtube? smile

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An online review -

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/privia-nx-130-real-piano-sound-in-26-pounds/

The PX-330 review should be in the October issue of Keyboard Magazine


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Is the PX 575 getting an upgrade?

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Originally Posted by Nikalette
Is the PX 575 getting an upgrade?


With the addition of the pitch wheel, display, and 180 rhythms, the PX-330 has many of the features of the PX-575 and more. I can't comment on any other product development at this time, but if there are specific features you're looking for, please let us know (probably appropriate for another thread).


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Mike,

I have a hard time understanding the difference between the PX-830 and the AP420.
Both are lacking the portability of the px130/330, and they share the same specs. So they seem redundant. I am more attracted to the PX-830 so far -
Couldn't Casio spend more money improving the other models and their accessories (like the 3-pedals bar) instead of having 2 models offering the exact same features?
Or did I miss something in the Casio marketing here?

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Vincent,
While I don't have the specifications in front of me, the style of the two units is very different. The AP-420 is very traditional, while the PX-830 has a more contemporary and modern design. I think the designs are different enough that each product has a place in the market.

In regards to the pedal issue which I've seen a few times on this forum, I've actually done the research with our service and returns departments to find out more and have not been able to find reports of these issues. As I stated in another thread, in over a year in this position at Casio America, I've never had a single call from a dealer that had a customer with a problem. If you are having an issue, I urge you to contact our customer service department. https://www.casio.com/support/contactus/contact



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Mike, you are welcome. I have a few question for or anyone else that can help me. Is there a way to switch pedal polarity on the PX-330? Also, what pedals work with it besides the one that comes with it. Also, there is some type of odd connection under the PX-330 which says pedal. What kind of pedal is that for?

Thanks in advance.

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just jumping in here....the pedal connector on the bottom is for the optional 3 pedal unit (SP-32) (see pg E7 of manual) ----not sure but i think the polarity would be adjusted on the pedal if needed. i just got the m-audio pedal (about $20. on amazon) and it has a polarity switch but i was able to use it as is on the PX330.

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Thanks a lot for the clarification, galaxy4t and Mike Martin! I did notice that the keys in the new PX-n30 models somehow felt more responsive.

I was like a kid in a candy store when I had chance to try out a lot of DPs when I visited Japan last weekend. There was a PX-830 on display which I absolutely loved. The new look and material of the keys felt so different! I didn't think changing the key material would make much of a difference, but after playing on the PX-830, I couldn't help feeling a sharp drop in my playing enjoyment when I went back to the PX-730. I like the music stand which doubles as a key cover as well, though the actual music rack area was smaller than I expected. The high-gloss black finish that scheduled to be released on November in Japan looks very sleek.

It's hard to find DPs in my country so I took the chance to try the Korgs, Clavinovas, Rolands, and Casios available. I've only ever tried Casios before so I was worried that I was missing a lot by not having the higher-end models, but with my beginner amateur ability, I felt no compelling reason to ditch my Casio DP. Unfortunately the store was very noisy and I didn't have headphones on to make a more accurate comparison, but overall, I felt the Casio DPs competed very well with the other brands especially on the price-value factor.


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Thanks marimorimo for the review on the PX-830, I can't wait to try one out, when I tried the PX-800 I felt everything was right except for the feel of the keyboard, if that's improved I'll buy one. Here it seems it will sell for just under £1000 were as the Roland DP 990 I was considering would cost me £1400...a big difference in price.
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Doctor Music,
As Lima said the connector underneath is for the SP32 Casio 3 pedal unit. It adapts to the wooden stands Casio makes. It is made of plastic and there is some concern over how it holds up on these forums. I had a PX 800 that I never took out of the box and returned for concerns over the pedal and the keybed used in this model. There are other pedals that will work with Casio. The SP2 by m-audio works fine. There are other threads about pedals for Casio on this forum. The most recent one was regarding pedals for the PX-320 in early summer.

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