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Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz

Kids are attracted to the guitar because they heard some cool songs and want to learn. Shouldn't that be the way with piano? Personally I love the sound of the piano and seek out music that I enjoy. Practice is seldom a chore because it gives me much pleasure to just sit and play. And I definitely will be doing so until the day I die.


It's not what they hear, but what they see. Most popular music has piano or keyboard parts, but the person up front singing and showing off usually is waving a guitar around. It is the image, not the sound. The keyboard player or pianist is usually off to the side, with the exception of Coldplay, Norah Jones, and a few others. Even Nine Inch Nails uses keyboard extensively, probably more than guitar.

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Good observation. We are more and more dominated by visual media and visual impressions.
Even when there is a classical pianist that gives the audience a little bit of visual stimulus and finds a following with young people he is criticized as some kind of apostate.

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Originally Posted by saerra
Quick thought on the original question: how many people really hate piano...

Pianoworld may not be the best place to ask that! I imagine piano-hating folks are mightly repelled by our piano-obsessed antics here :p ! wink





I asked "how many people hate piano," not "do *you* hate piano". I did not want this to be a piano or piano -teacher bashing session, but to gain insight as to the things that cause someone to hate piano. smile


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Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz
Let me pose a question, how many guitarists have you ever heard say they hate the guitar? I've heard of NONE. Most pro guitar players have a similar story to how they started. They heard some great guitarist, was blown away by the sound of it, and couldn't wait to practice and emulate their musical heroes. They would play hours on end in the basement dreaming of becoming good. How many piano players say that?

Jimi Hendrix was a guitar god to so many people. Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton have talked fondly of his influence on them. BB King once said his guitars are like his wives, and he gives them names like "Lucille".

There isn't the structured approach to guitar lessons as there is to piano. Heck, alot of the pros can barely manage 5 chords and play the same licks over and over. Granted rock and pop music is far less challenging than classical or jazz.

Kids are attracted to the guitar because they heard some cool songs and want to learn. Shouldn't that be the way with piano? Personally I love the sound of the piano and seek out music that I enjoy. Practice is seldom a chore because it gives me much pleasure to just sit and play. And I definitely will be doing so until the day I die.

I tried to learn guitar and hated it. It just did not suit my personality. But you are right, if we're talking Pop and rock piano vs. pop and rock jazz, they are taught pretty much the same way usually (if that is the only thing the teacher knows how to play) -- very unstructured -- and that works, because it's not that hard to do. But if we're talking classical guitar or jazz, I think you'll find a much more structured lesson with much more difficult assignments. Of course, this is a grand generalization and I know there are exceptions to everything.


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You only HATE piano when you're forced to against your will because your mind associates vehement scoldings and threats of abuse with the piano so you start not to like it. This happened to Lang Lang, sorry I have to mention him smile , which was a reason he hated the piano and wanted to quit since his father was very, at least we know, verbally abusive to him telling him to commit suicide at one point.

However, I can't speak for the pros, but all adult amateurs love piano, DON"T WE??? wink


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