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Help with Program #1256207
08/26/09 12:01 AM
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Trying to come up with my concert program for the next year.
I'm a "theme" person when it comes to programming - and usually go for the obvious, so thought I'd ask for suggestions for this one.

I'm considering either of these themes with the following possibilities:

Folk Tunes:
Reinagle - Five Scots
Beethoven - Sonata in G Major
Byrd - The Carman's Whistle
Brahms - Intermezzo in E Flat Maj
Edward MacDowell - From an Indian Lodge
Bartok - Three Rondos on Folk Tunes
Alberto Ginastera - Rondo on Argentine Children's Folk Tunes

--OR--

Variations:
Mozart - Ah Vous Dirai-je Maman
Beethoven - Six Variations on a Duet by Paisiello
Brahms - Variations on a Theme of Paganini
Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue
couldn't come up with more for this list...

I'm not considering playing EACH piece I've listed for either program, but just shuffling through ideas.

suggestions?
I'm also going to perform a piece of my own, perhaps a bit too ambitious, but i'll leave the goal there for now wink


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Re: Help with Program [Re: MrsCamels] #1256584
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i don't really like the beethoven variations - any suggestions?


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Re: Help with Program [Re: MrsCamels] #1256600
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How about a different set of Beethoven variations: Six Variations on a Swiss song, WoO 64. These are quite easy, but very charming.


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Re: Help with Program [Re: MrsCamels] #1256605
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To be honest, I don't think a program with only sets of variations is such a good idea. Kind of like Beethoven writing a sonata with all three movemnets as variations.

The folk tunes might be OK, but(just a personal opinion)I don't like 7 different composers on one program. Which of the Beethoven G major Sonatas is based on a folk tune?

A recital program is personal, but I think it is better to choose pieces you love and work together in other ways as opposed to trying to fit a certain themes. I don't have anything against a recital with a theme, but I'm not sure if either of these themes are such a good idea.

How does Rhapsody in Blue fit on a variations program?

Re: Help with Program [Re: pianoloverus] #1256636
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i just have a lot of troubling picking music - indecisive. Also, as a composer, it gives me the chance to study specific forms, qualities, etc. So, in that sense, these two formats really appeal to me. Problem with the folk tunes is that many of them retain their "folk" quality in the finished product. I'd be interested in incorporating a piece that takes a folk tune in a very different direction.

i wouldn't do all 7 of the folk tunes - just sifting through some pieces i like.

i'm leaning towards the variations -
beethoven op. 79 is based on a folk tune

I consider the rhapsody in blue a set of variations since the thematic material is manipulated more in mood than motivic variance, so it seemed to fit.


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Re: Help with Program [Re: MrsCamels] #1256729
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How about: "The Many Faces of Piano Variations"

As the first movement of a sonata (Mozart K. 311)

With a fugue (Beethoven Eroica, Brahms Handel)

As an etude (Liszt Paganini #6)

A double-variation (Haydn Andante and Variations in f minor)

Passacaglias and Chaconnes (Bach-Busoni Chaconne, Chopin Berceuse, Copland Passacaglia, etc...)

Abstract (Webern, Copland)

Popular (Brahms Op. 21#2, Muczynski Desperate Variations)


I could see a nice program going something like this:

Mozart - Sonata in A Major, K. 331

Beethoven - Eroica Variations, Op. 35

*intermission*

Copland Variations

Brahms - Variations on a Hungarian Song, Op. 21#2

Liszt - Paganini Etude #6 (La Campanella also works)


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Re: Help with Program [Re: Kreisler] #1256734
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OR:

Handel - Suite No. 1 in B-flat Major, HWV 434

Chopin - Berceuse

Beethoven - Variations in F Major, Op. 34

*Intermission*

Muczynski - Desperate Measures

Brahms - Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel


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Re: Help with Program [Re: Kreisler] #1261082
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Thanks Kreisler, that gives me some good ideas!


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