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Grade 3 pieces #1231398
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I am just taking my grade two piano - and i would like to keep my self challenged Can you recommend a grade 3 piece that is manageable by a lowly grade two player.


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: justcallmesir] #1231401
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I think if you took this question to the Adult Beginners Forum you'd get a ton of support and a deluge of suggestions.


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: justcallmesir] #1231464
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Originally Posted by justcallmesir
I am just taking my grade two piano - and i would like to keep my self challenged Can you recommend a grade 3 piece that is manageable by a lowly grade two player.


If it's ABRSM Grade 2, Grade 3 you're referring to, why don't you just check the ABRSM syllabus on line here :

ABRSM Syllabus

You'll find a number of pieces at any level, including Grade 3.

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Clementi's Sonatina Op. 36, No. 1 would be my first thought. It's pretty straight forward, and most students really enjoy it. The Bach Menuet in G is challenging (like all Bach), but it is one that I often see students tackle early on.


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: Karisofia] #1236030
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Hi Karisofia,

I have a question: are there any exams for adults in the US? I mean outside the university like different levels that can certify a person and is there an age restriction? I live in AL. Would you know of any? Please let me know.

Thanks


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Irene, I think there are usually no age restrictions and probably many different courses and classifications. Personally, I went through MTAC and they had 10 levels, I've heard of others, but I'm pretty sure they allow pianists of all age to test. I remember that some 60-70 year old grandmother was testing level 2 or 3, and it just seemed ridiculous to me, but I guess it's never too late!


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1Irene9: You can take the national exams. I am taking the national exam and I started grade 1 at age 42 and I am now reparing grade 6 and find it encouraging to see the progression... go for it!!!


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Originally Posted by Philip Lu
[...] I remember that some 60-70 year old grandmother was testing level 2 or 3, and it just seemed ridiculous to me, but I guess it's never too late!


Fortunately, not everyone has such hurtful attitudes towards the elderly. Why would it seem "ridiculous" that an older person was taking up a new - to her - pastime? I find that comment very insensitive, as if the study of music - or anything else, for that matter - is the domain of the young.

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I remember that some 60-70 year old grandmother was testing level 2 or 3, and it just seemed ridiculous to me, but I guess it's never too late!

Have you lately noticed the age of some of the adult students in this forum? Nice going. How do you know she was a grandmother? She may never have had children or grandchildren. And 60 is not old anyway. Have you figured out why you found it ridiculous?

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Philip Lu
[...] I remember that some 60-70 year old grandmother was testing level 2 or 3, and it just seemed ridiculous to me, but I guess it's never too late!


Fortunately, not everyone has such hurtful attitudes towards the elderly. Why would it seem "ridiculous" that an older person was taking up a new - to her - pastime? I find that comment very insensitive, as if the study of music - or anything else, for that matter - is the domain of the young.

Regards,

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I think it is great that this adult learner wanted to take exams to begin with. There is nothing like preparing for a performance, and when you have that kind of goal where you can get feedback from a knowledgeable pianist or two, that will just help her to get even better.

The thing I appreciate most about adult students is the wealth of knowledge and wisdom they bring to their playing. They understand hardships, pain, joy, love, etc., all varieties of deep emotions that a child simply cannot fathom (nor should they).


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: Morodiene] #1236526
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Thank you everyone for your kind advice and encouragement. What are these national exams? How do I get to their website or information on it? I think national exams would be great especially if it is held in the US so I would be able to continue with it whereever I am. And it will keep me interested at working at it and getting better. Please let me know.

Thanks.


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: Philip Lu] #1236938
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Originally Posted by Philip Lu
I remember that some 60-70 year old grandmother was testing level 2 or 3, and it just seemed ridiculous to me, but I guess it's never too late!
Nice of you to say it's not too late to play the piano. Otherwise I would have had to ask you to just pass me my bowl of gruel and wheel me in front of the TV. Ah, why bother? Maybe even that's ridiculous. Don't even feed me - just put me down now, before I hit that ridiculously advanced age of (=gasp=) sixty...


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Originally Posted by currawong
Don't even feed me - just put me down now, before I hit that ridiculously advanced age of (=gasp=) sixty...

Don't be silly, mate. Methinks you now know what is important and what is unimportant in life. Not mentioning cricket, these tend to be years wherein Elgar -not a young man's composer, me notwithstanding- starts to REALLY make sense.

Quite frankly I look forward to it, and the deeply profound thoughts of Bach, Haydn, Mozart, Wagner, Franck and Bruckner should start to manifest themselves upon a mind more receptive to ideas and feelings less obvious to those younger.


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Oh yes - absolutely smile. I was just having a go at the poster. Couldn't decide which was the worst thing about his post: thinking a 60-y-o beginner was ridiculous, or thinking 60 was old.


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^Well good on you. Your posts have a certain loving enthusiasm which to me is very timeless. You are one of several people here (Janus in another thread for example) whom I always look forward to interacting with. A currawong post is guaranteed quality time.


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: argerichfan] #1237637
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I am not being hurtful, I was just exclaiming that at that age, she could still try new things! I know it is a grandmother because she had the same piano teacher as mine and my piano teacher was surprised.


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Originally Posted by Philip Lu
I am not being hurtful, I was just exclaiming that at that age, she could still try new things! I know it is a grandmother because she had the same piano teacher as mine and my piano teacher was surprised.


Saying that one is surprised at what this woman is doing is quite different from saying that what she was doing seemed ridiculous.

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If I was talking about the 100 year old man who ran a whole marathon (remember, that's 26 miles of running), wouldn't you say that was ridiculous and not mean it in a bad way?


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Irene,

I'm so sorry I missed this when it came out. May is a busy month for me. Yes, you most definitely can take exams as an adult. There is an NMCP center in Huntsville, Alabama. You can get contact information here.

I hope you decide to go for it!


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Re: Grade 3 pieces [Re: Karisofia] #1237757
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Philip the attitude displayed in your posts on this thread is far more ridiculous and surprising than any “grandmother …testing level 2 or 3”.
The charitable interpretation of your posts so far would be that your communication skills are woefully lacking and that you simply can’t quite express what you want to say. An alternative interpretation would be that you sympathise with the Nazi T4 extermination program.
Neither explanations reflect at all well on you personally.
One of my greatest pleasures at work last week was meeting a patient in her late 80’s who was still taking regular piano lessons. If you’re lucky you’ll live long enough to do the same and if you’re even luckier, when you do, you won’t come across any ignorant arseholes displaying similar attitudes to yourself.

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Originally Posted by Philip Lu
If I was talking about the 100 year old man who ran a whole marathon (remember, that's 26 miles of running), wouldn't you say that was ridiculous and not mean it in a bad way?
Maybe the problem is that you don't know the meaning of the word ridiculous. It means arousing or deserving ridicule. If you think a 100 year old man should be ridiculed for running a marathon, or a 60 year old woman ridiculed for learning the piano, then you deserve everything wombat said about you. If it's just that you don't know what the word means then there's some hope for you.


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Thank you Karisofia,

I completely understand your situation. I was just enquiring. I have found the email for the person to contact and I will send an email right away. Thank you for your encouragement.



Irene

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