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Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? #1228923
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Before you criticize the topic, let me say that I realize this is not recommended over a professional piano mover. However, I've been offered a free piano that is pretty beat up, and if I don't take it they will literally dump it. I don't need it, but I would like to give it to my sister who just happens to be moving this weekend and will have a Uhaul. I do not want to spend $200 to have it professionally moved when the piano probably isn't even worth that.

So, my brother-in-law will have a Uhaul and about 3 men to help move it. We just need to know how to keep it securely in the Uhaul. It's only a 15 minute drive.


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: orlandopiano] #1228947
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Get you some straps with the come-along assembly on them and secure the piano to the side wall of the UHaul trailer. I would make sure the piano is closer to the front of the trailer. You could also take some 2x4 blocks about 4inches square and nail them to the floor of the trailer (if it has a wood floor) around the casters on the piano. This will keep it from shifting.


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: JMichaelWilson] #1229083
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Be careful with the Uhaul trailer. Sometimes the rails that you use to secure item is not solid. I have had 2 rails let go just from tighten ratchet straps. You should buy some ratchet straps to secure the piano. You don't need to nail blocks to the floor, good quality straps will work fine if the rails are in good solid shape.


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: wayne walker] #1229335
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Since no one has mentioned it, call around to rental places and see if you can rent a set of piano dollies ($25 at my local hardware rental center). They come in a pair that go on each end with straps to secure them to the piano. The fold-up handles give you a place to lift without bending over. And there is a lever that lifts the piano onto 4 inch wheels that make the piano easy to roll and prevents the piano's casters and legs from being damaged when going over thresholds.

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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: UnrightTooner] #1229357
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If you have any doubts about the solidity of the securing rails,

the worst case scenario is that the piano will end up falling over -
causing damage to both piano and van.

If, however, you lie the piano on it's back, this won't happen.

Place the piano on top of some sturdy blankets - this serves two purposes.....

1. It provides some 'shock-absorbtion', and...

2. Makes it easier to 'slide' the piano into, and out of, the van.

Make sure it's as firmly secured as is possible - cargo of that weight, if unsecured,
can cause a heck of a lot of damage.

Rather you than me!

Good luck.... & remember to bend your knees...

Saving a bit of cash by not using professional piano movers is not worth
getting a serious back injury for.


PS - if you can get use of a sturdy piano trolley, it will make things a LOT easier.
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Thanks everyone for your advice. It is very helpful and I really appreciate it!

Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: orlandopiano] #1229447
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If you lie a piano on its back, you will never be able to get it up again.


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: BDB] #1229454
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Originally Posted by BDB
If you lie a piano on its back, you will never be able to get it up again.


Even with assistance from the little blue pill??


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: Silverwood Pianos] #1229468
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Originally Posted by BDB
If you lie a piano on its back, you will never be able to get it up again.


What if you turn the trailer on it's side?


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Just as long as you remember which side.


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: BDB] #1229482
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Originally Posted by BDB
If you lie a piano on its back, you will never be able to get it up again.


With 3 or 4 blokes on hand, it shouldn't be too difficult -

The trick is to get the piano (on it's edge) to its 'balance point' -

Once that's done, it seems to be a light as a feather! - so you can turn/manouever it

any way you want.

you can then stand it on-end, then turn it onto its castors (or preferably a trolley).

Not easy, I admit, but far from impossible - I've done it before now on several occasions.

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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: jpscoey] #1229491
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Usually I leave a length of rope underneath if I do it this way.....


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: Silverwood Pianos] #1229498
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If you forget to leave a piece of rope underneath, and you can back a trailer up really, really fast, and you have good brakes (and a video camera).....


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Originally Posted by BDB
If you lie a piano on its back, you will never be able to get it up again.


The thing I neglected to mention is that the piano should not be lying flat on

it's back ON THE GROUND at any point - that WOULD be difficult to lift!

You would 'tilt' it into the van/trailer, and out again.

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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: UnrightTooner] #1229505
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Originally Posted by UnrightTooner
If you forget to leave a piece of rope underneath, and you can back a trailer up really, really fast, and you have good brakes (and a video camera).....


thumb... you might even get the fee off the TV show that airs it,

and then have the cash to pay for a professional removal.....

(or someone from a scrapyard to come & collect the pieces!) grin .

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It won't move because I have already tried this. BUT, if you put old broomsticks underneath.....moving a piano flat on its back is not a good idea.


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".....moving a piano flat on its back is not a good idea."

I agree!


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Originally Posted by UnrightTooner
".....moving a piano flat on its back is not a good idea."

I agree!


I wasn't saying the whole move should be done with the piano on it's back -

that's NOT a good idea!.....

just for stability in the van/on the trailer.

(It also distributes the weight on the axle more evenly).


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Re: Any advice on moving an upright in a Uhaul? [Re: Silverwood Pianos] #1229587
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Originally Posted by Silverwood Pianos

Originally Posted by BDB
If you lie a piano on its back, you will never be able to get it up again.


Even with assistance from the little blue pill??


I tried that. Do you want to buy some really long pedals?


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I wouldn't advise laying the piano on it back, you would be better to secure it to the wall of the trailer or van. We did this way when I move pianos and never had a problem.

As for the Kari-Cart moving device they are great for moving Hammond B3 organs but a not much good for pianos(had used them years ago). The best way is to use a dolly with good 4" casters. Lift the piano onto the dolly and secure with strap around the piano dolly. Makes moving pianos very easy. You may be able to rent a dolly from U-Haul.


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