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Recital Improvement Thread
#1199581 05/15/09 04:16 AM
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I'll kick off the recital improvement thread with a suggestion for Mahlzeit.

Mahlzeit,

This is not the first time we have had a timing problem where the website was one hour off the actual deadline.

Is there any chance you can looked into this for the next recital?

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It probably has something to do with daylight savings time. I'll add it to my to-do list.

The problem is that it has always worked when I looked at it (which presumably was when daylight savings time was not in effect), and that I'm not awake during the final hours of the recital to witness the actual countdown.


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DragonPianoPlayer #1202232 05/19/09 02:07 PM
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How about a list of the recital pieces that includes performer and composer that could be printed out for those of us that burn CDs and listen to them while driving. The list that is included as a template for comments would work, but it doesn't include the composer.

Now you can visualize me driving, listening to the CD, and trying to read the list to see who that marvelous performer is...

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I think the recital runs very good now. If I had to be nit-picky I would look for a way to show the avatar of the performer displayed only once in the far left margin as opposed to Monicas on every entry.

Of course nothing against Monicas avatar but it can get a little confusing at times; especially when the performer does not link his/her own avatar. Like I said, just if someone was getting really bored and wanted to fix something!

Should the recital start getting very large, a suggestion could be to possibly have a few subgroups (genres) of music styles put under a single heading...i.e a classical group, new age/neo classical group, pop/contempory etc.

Another suggestion could be to somehow group experience levels together..(based on ability, not time).

These are just a few things to think about on the back burner if ever needed. The recital has not gotten too big (yet), but it has grown tremendously in just a few years. We could easily have over 100 entrants by years end at the current growth rate.

Thoughtful planning will ensure the recitals continued success but at present, it ain't broke so...

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mr_super-hunky #1202432 05/19/09 08:18 PM
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...don't fix it! :-)

Seriously, the recital is fun and works well. And considering it's all done by volunteer effort it is amazing.


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Originally Posted by mr_super-hunky
If I had to be nit-picky I would look for a way to show the avatar of the performer displayed only once in the far left margin as opposed to Monicas on every entry.

Of course nothing against Monicas avatar but it can get a little confusing at times; especially when the performer does not link his/her own avatar.


I understand the confusion. Unfortunately I think this is a problem without a fix, unless we moved the recital thread off-forum and kept it solely on LaValse's server. But the last time we talked about it, there was not much support for doing that and strong vocal support for keeping the recital in the forum.

Well, there *is* a fix, actually, which is for me to stop using my avatar entirely, but that would be like taking a scalpel to my face. eek

...or, maybe I could just turn my avatar off for the week immediately following the recital. That's not a bad idea, honestly... I'll try to remember to do that next time. (And feel free to give me a gentle nudge if I don't.)

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Monica K. #1202481 05/19/09 09:45 PM
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Actually Monica, I think you just discovered the fix. Like you said, you probably could just disable your avatar during the entry process of the recital submissions and then enable it again later.

If when you enable it again the avatar pops back up in everyones entry than don't bother. It's not fair for you to have no face for a week!.

As I've mentioned if it was a simple easy fix then do it but apparantly it's not fixable unless we move the recital. In that case just leave things be.

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I'm pretty sure that whether your avatar shows or not is dependent on how you have currently set your profile, and it will apply to all past posts. (e.g., you have changed your avatar over the years, but all your past posts show your current avatar).

But it's certainly easy enough to disable my avatar for the week that the recital thread is busiest, and I can live without it for that long. wink I just have to remember to do it next time.

Along those lines, one nice feature of the new forum software is that you can selectively disable your signature, which I attempted to do for all the recital entries, as showing off my blogs and youtube channel just cluttered things up too much. It would nice if they had that same selective disable for the avatar, but they don't (at least as far as I can tell).


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Monica K. #1202596 05/20/09 06:05 AM
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My 2 cents?? live with it...seems like a lot to do and undo just for a avatar.

btw...Nice job everyone...


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Les Koltvedt #1202828 05/20/09 01:22 PM
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Monica,

Why not sign up with a new account for the Piano World Forums and use that to post the recital entries instead of your regular account?


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mahlzeit #1202840 05/20/09 01:54 PM
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Because they'd ban me for life under the new "Absolutely positively no sockpuppet" rule! laugh

...but maybe if I asked Ken/Frank for permission ahead of time and used a login name like "AB recital" they'd let me get away with it.

...but if I did that, I'd have to start earning my post count the old-fashioned way of actually saying something... laugh

....but then on the other hand [starts taking idea seriously], there would be the advantage of having the recital announcements and thread coming out from some "official" capacity and not just me, which would provide for some continuity if and when somebody else takes over... all I'd have to do is tell 'em the password. hmmm.... definitely worth exploring.

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I would much rather explore the possibility of having the recital software actually doing the posting to the forum. It should be doable with only a bit of work. I'm sure Monica would vote for that rather than doing copy/paste for every entry.


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mahlzeit #1202905 05/20/09 03:42 PM
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Okay that was brilliant!

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My (dim) memory tells me we talked about this a while back and concluded it wasn't feasible, *if* we want to keep the recital thread in PW (which I believe we do). The copying and pasting really isn't a big deal at all; mahlzeit's program creates a handy text file with all the info that makes it all very easy... I'm able to work on it while the mp3 files are being downloaded, assembled into zip files, and uploaded, so it really wouldn't save any time.

If the recital got truly HUGE (= hundreds of submissions) I might change my mind, but if it gets that big, we'll probably be making other changes, too, e.g., subdividing.

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Monica K. #1202968 05/20/09 05:35 PM
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MK...about how much time do you spend that night? and be honest.


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Les Koltvedt #1202981 05/20/09 05:59 PM
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...and how tall are you?, how old?. and weight? be honest!

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I spend about 2 1/2 hours putting the recital out, monster. It was a little longer last time, but that was because I screwed up my mp3 file and had to fool around with the zip files etc. to fix it. crazy


p.s. to msh: 5'8", 19, and 105. Think Gisele Bundchen, only smarter. wink

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^That made me laugh.

I put together the photo contests on another forum. It cycles about every two weeks (one week for entries, one week for voting). If Monica is like me, she just likes doing it. And I say kudos for all of your and mahlzeit's work on the recitals.

If Canada Post didn't charge such exhorbitant rates, I'd send you something as a thank-you. Maybe some bakeapples for your ice cream or processed into jam. Mmmm....bakeapples. I'm sure they'd never get through the FDA, but it's the thought that counts.

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Depending on the new forum post size limits, and if necessary because of recital size in the future, an alternative is to paste the recital into a single message, with replies being the current discussion thread - and I'm pretty sure it would be straightforward for Matt to change the way the text is generated for you (Monica) (also fixes the avatar issue)...

That would tend to make the time needed to prepare fairly constant rather than being dependent on the number of entries...

If that was desirable but hit post size limits - it would be easy ( get coding Matt... smile ) to go hybrid - with some info on PW and some hyperlinked to the server... Which does not really compromise traffic to Frank - the reason for keeping it on PW...


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Originally Posted by Monica K.
I spend about 2 1/2 hours putting the recital out, monster. It was a little longer last time, but that was because I screwed up my mp3 file and had to fool around with the zip files etc. to fix it. crazy


p.s. to msh: 5'8", 19, and 105. Think Gisele Bundchen, only smarter. wink


that works out to a little over 3 1/2 hours for 100 entries...

btw... thanks for the mental image...lol


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